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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    Isn't that illegal in your country, too, Uncle? I couldn't legally do that here even with the author's permission. And if I knew someone who is doing so, I should denounce it, or risk a charge of complicity.
    I think so; you'd have to look at the copyright laws to be sure. On the other hand, the owner of the copyright has to object, and in this case Mrs. Barker simply doesn't care - as long as she doesn't have to deal with it, it's not her problem. A number of things of a similar nature have been reported to her, and she's ignored the reports. She was never involved or interested in Phil's gaming or Tekumel; that was his 'night out with the boys', and not her problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Um, there are still eyewitnesses living who will testify this ain't true... not to mention Jon has already documented letters from Phil in early 1974 about my D&D game.

    Gods of Cimmeria, this whole thing is starting to make my asshole tired.

    Meanwhile, now that I'm retired I have all these kits waiting to be built...
    They are all liars, and part of the Gygax-Arneson gang that so cruelly ripped Phil off. And Jon probably forged the letters; they are not Officially Authorized and Approved as truth. I have this on good authority, of course, and I believe everything I am told by my betters. ("Solidarity, Reg!")

    I got tired of it several years ago - see also the scar on the back of my head - and I'm still tired of this kind of crap; the latest 'news' from Con of the North that Phil persecuted gays and hated them because he was a devout Muslim is simply the latest bucket of nonsense. I never saw any of that kind of malarky when I was out there, and I don't think you did either, but then both you and and I are part of the conspiracy to deny gay guys their rightful place in gaming.

    Is there a Secret Handshake or anything? I didn't get the memo...

    Oh, sigh...

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    Uncle,

    I don't think we touched on this...Did you ever game with the Professor during a different time period other than the current history of Tekumel?

    Thanks,

    H:0)

    PS At this point I don't remember if we DID discuss it...long thread!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    I think so; you'd have to look at the copyright laws to be sure. On the other hand, the owner of the copyright has to object, and in this case Mrs. Barker simply doesn't care - as long as she doesn't have to deal with it, it's not her problem. A number of things of a similar nature have been reported to her, and she's ignored the reports. She was never involved or interested in Phil's gaming or Tekumel; that was his 'night out with the boys', and not her problem.
    Then it's not the same, Uncle, because here it's a general crime that is prosecuted by the DA. As I said, the rights holder can allow you to publish the text for free, but allowing you to change the name on the cover is null and void, and the DA's office job.

    BTW, Uncle, is Mrs Barker aware of Phil supposedly persecuting gay guys for religious reasons? She just might take a different view of that.

    Though on second thought, it's best to leave those people be, and enjoy the peace and quiet. People can compare your account and theirs, and decide on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by altfritz View Post
    I'd love to put it up on my blog but would need permission and they're the ones to give it. :-(
    Research the Fair Use laws. I doubt you need permission to repost quotes (even huge chunks) from an article in a blog discussing said huge quoted chunks, especially if the magazine is extinct. It is truly amazing how many out of print and extinct periodicals can be found on Archive.org.

    And of course, lots of old books get posted on the web...mysteriously, anonymously and forever accessible...


    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    But I want them to game with, not worship. Or have sex with.
    Stop being such a prude!

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    Actually Fair Use laws vary according to jurisdiction. Posting copies of the SoA magazine or parts thereof on-line will be regarded as "not done, Old Boy" by the committee of said group. See the UK rules at :Uk Copyright Service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes Serpent View Post
    Actually Fair Use laws vary according to jurisdiction. Posting copies of the SoA magazine or parts thereof on-line will be regarded as "not done, Old Boy" by the committee of said group. See the UK rules at :Uk Copyright Service
    I've already contacted SoA. They stated that the rights belong with the author. Or, in this case, the Foundation. But it sounds like (per Chirine) that all the Slingshot issues are already in their hands. I only have a partial collection...there may be other contributions as well...letters, articles, etc.

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    Lots of fascinating material in there, like a manuscript copy of Tony Bath's campaign rules sent by him to Phil pre-publication.
    DID YOU SAY HYBORIA CAMPAIGN MANUSCRIPT????

    That would be valuable!

    Howard

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    I notice online that Professor Barker's miniatures fought in a battle at a recent con. Possibly Con of the North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altfritz View Post
    I notice online that Professor Barker's miniatures fought in a battle at a recent con. Possibly Con of the North.
    Don't know about Con of the North, but they were used at GaryCon.
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