Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal

Originally Posted by d(sqrt(-1))

So does that imply that the Pariah Gods have been given a bad press and they may in some way be the good guys? If they are working to return Tekumel to normal space...presumably they fell out with the original entities who went on to become the Gods of Pavar...who have a vested interest in Tekumel remaining where it is

The lords of Humanspace are no doubt Elves are wonderful, marvellous, glamorous, enchanting, terrific...but you'd notice, no doubt, that no one ever said the Lords of Humanspace are nice people, and their creations don't prove it, either.
The Pariah Gods want to return you to them.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

You're welcome! Let us see it, when it's ready...

Sure, why not? It's definitely in the queue, right behind the 1/35 Jadgpanzer IV L/70 (which will be on the paint bench this weekend), the 1/35 JS2 and a bunch of miniatures for my game.
Finished the Tsolyani Aridani, some random critters to be used as proxies and or Saturday Night Specials, and now I'm trying to decide whether to the start another Aridani, perhaps a Yan Koryani, or do some more Legion of the Despairing Dead.

Shemek

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Hmmm. Might be in one of the small states; in the Five Empires, this is handled by the temples of Sarku or Belkhanu, or the local equivalent.

Ya, you're right, it probably is. I just can't remember where I came across it.

Shemek

Originally Posted by Dulahan

OK, a couple more questions from all over the board:

The Dragon Warriors. I understand the N'luss were the descendants of the Space Marines, very likely. does this mean they really did conquer their empire with lost tech, not actual dragons? Did it ever come up in play or conversation one way or another? Honestly, I've never even decided which I like better. They're both REALLY cool! Which now makes me wonder if it's both. At once. Dudes on dragons alongside flying cars with freaking laser beams.


Now for something else very different. Using Undead in Warfare is a big, huge no-no. Get ready for the high ride! BUT! what if such is used against the inimicals? Say a Sarku legion defending against the Ssu, Hluss, Hokun, or Hlutgru? Is that a case of "Anything goes, screw those things?" Or would that still be ignoble?

For that matter, would any of those races have easy ways to deal with the Undead?

Welcome aboard Dulahan. You really should read Prince of Skulls which will answer your first question, and Flamesong which will answer your second.

Shemek

Originally Posted by d(sqrt(-1))

Sure. I just wonder if the Gods of Pavar have an interest in that not happening (I'm sure they do...)

Sure they do! They're not out for Tekumeli humans' best interests, they're out for themselves first and their "cause" second, with one possible but unlikely exception.
The question is, whose interests align best with those of the humans on Tekumel, and it's best answered by PCs learning forbidden knowledge that even the temple of Ksarul deems heretical.

(Said exception probably only exists in my fan-canon. Maybe Ksarul is in the Blue Room prison because he tried to pull a Lord of the Light on the other gods of Pavar. If so, he is exactly a few moments before the point where the Lord of the Light novel begins).

Originally Posted by Dulahan

Sadly, apparently not. I read through too many pages yesterday it seems. I've been trying to find it page by page, but no luck so far! So I'll take what I can get about any of them. I'm pretty sure Hokun were mentioned in the same post, but not this kingdom proper. So maybe it was one on the other side of the Northern Hemisphere? Or somewhere else?

EDIT: I also remember this kingdom proper was supposed to be isolated. If that helps more!

EDIT 2: Mystery solved! A bit of information overload on my part. I was reading the old Ucon Conversations book right before I started this thread, and it was something from there. The Nation of Hekadonde to be specific.

Oh, okay; the over-the-North Pole country. Odd place, isolated from 'real civilization' in the Five Empires. We visited briefly by tubeway car, late in the 1980s, and once we found out that they were on pretty good terms with the Hokun we left in a hurry. We also got the impression that they were allies of what we called the 'purple-and-brown empire' that we contacted in the late 1970s, too.

They are sort of on a 'meridian line' up and over from the Five Empires, in the upper latitudes of the northern hemisphere over on their side of the planet - what I call the 'third quadrant' of Phil's globe; we occupy the first, the Southern Continent the second) and from what we got from them is that Benre Sa is located to the south of them and off to one side. There's kind of a 'beaten path' of a sea lane that connects the north polar ocean with them; the 1990s group followed this, which is where the U-Con Conversations material comes from. I have a set of the maps, as well.

Tibet would work well as a reference for them; they didn't seem to be a theocracy like the Nyemesel Isles or the real Tibet, though.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Probably the closest to "untouchable" would be the nakome (the clanless.) It was one reason I joined the army; it gave me a place in society.

Agreed. Being clanless is pretty difficult; see also "Man of Gold". Poor people off the boat are in this category; rich and connected people are not. I think we touched on this early on in this thread.