Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Some people have gotten used relying on Illusionist GMs to feel important, I guess.
Just give them the same answer Prof. Barker was giving to the similar requests about his setting. Which is no doubt what you're doing already.

I mean, I knew that gaming's supposed to be inclusuve these days. (I also happen to believe that gaming is always exactly as inclusive as the people around the table make it).
But I think asking for such stuff is kinda abusing the definition of inclusiveness!

The impression that I've gotten is that as the game hobby gets smaller and smaller, and a certain group of people get less and less well-known, they really need to be more and more Important. Some of the stuff that's gone by me in the past five years defies rational belief.

Ah, 'inclusiveness'. Which used to be "anyone's welcome to play" and has now morphed into "only the special group that I want to impress" gets to game.

Stuff that. Anybody is still welcome, here in my house, and at my game table. If somebody has an issue with that, they can start their own politically correct game group.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

I'm perfectly willing to have Korunme's pratfalls told of, as long as my name is spelled right...

The really funny thing, my General, is that over the years you very - and I do mean very - rarely had any pratfalls. You played brilliantly from the beginning; you role-played. It was amazing.

Originally Posted by darthfozzywig

And I mean no disrespect! My knowledge of Tekumel is limited to seeing some really cool EPT minis a few years ago and one poster on The Miniatures Page who chimes in on threads to tell everyone that Tekumel is the best fantasy ever. I am sure I'm missing out.

None taken, sir! And none offered, myself! I know how you feel; when I look in on the threads on this (or any other gaming) forum, I'm completely lost. I have no idea what the posters are talking about, the games they're referencing, and the mechanics they're using.

I don't know if either of us is 'missing out'. I freely admit that my gaming is very focused - Tekumel, Barsoom, Ancient Egypt, Ye Pyrates - and my being here in this thread is to answer questions. If that's something that you like, please feel free; if not, you're still welcome at the table.

Originally Posted by Greentongue

You may actually not be "missing out". It is not for everyone.
It seems that most people like to play in setting they are most comfortable with.
This is usually some generic European setting with Elves and Dwarves.
Nothing wrong with that.
For the people that want to explore closer to the edge of gaming, a setting like Tekumel is just the thing.
Just enough different to feel fresh while still being human centric.
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Very well put!!! In a lot of ways, Ancient Egypt is much more alien then Tekumel, and there are days when I despair over Barsoom. Pirates, on the other hand, seem to go over well anywhere...

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

The really funny thing, my General, is that over the years you very - and I do mean very - rarely had any pratfalls. You played brilliantly from the beginning; you role-played. It was amazing.

Well, thanks. I will confess my misadventures tended to be more situational... stairwell full of Pe Choi shit, anyone... and less being hoist by my own petard (how ARE you lads planning on getting that sheet of red gold out of here?)

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

The impression that I've gotten is that as the game hobby gets smaller and smaller, and a certain group of people get less and less well-known, they really need to be more and more Important. Some of the stuff that's gone by me in the past five years defies rational belief.

Ah, 'inclusiveness'. Which used to be "anyone's welcome to play" and has now morphed into "only the special group that I want to impress" gets to game.

Stuff that. Anybody is still welcome, here in my house, and at my game table. If somebody has an issue with that, they can start their own politically correct game group.

I abide by the same definition of inclusiveness, and intend to do so.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

The really funny thing, my General, is that over the years you very - and I do mean very - rarely had any pratfalls. You played brilliantly from the beginning; you role-played. It was amazing.

For some reason, I fail to be surprised...just a hunch, that.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Very well put!!! In a lot of ways, Ancient Egypt is much more alien then Tekumel, and there are days when I despair over Barsoom. Pirates, on the other hand, seem to go over well anywhere...

I agree on Ancient Egypt. Sometimes, I've wanted to put a fantasy land inspired by it in a homebrew setting, and see who would get the reference...

But...Barsoom isn't "alien", Uncle! Like, at all. It's just not well-known, especially lately - but the concepts are familiar.
It's just that they've been scattered across genres...
Tell any modern player unfamiliar with Barsoom that it's "pulp swaschbuckling with air ships in a dying post-apocalyptic world that's hanging on the brink of a second apocalypse and where everyone is hoping it wouldn't happen for another thousand years at least, although nobody knows when it's actually going to happen, and how long the resources and the machines that help maintain life on the whole planet are going to last".
Watch them starting to ask the right questions.
Or, even more simply, give them this link to a free PDF (works even better with the modern gamers that are used to reading manuals on settings and systems!)
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/...-Moons-of-Zoon
Tell them to read just the setting chapter (assuming you're not planning to use the system...all the 20 pages of it, I mean).
See how much would be left to explain.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Well, thanks. I will confess my misadventures tended to be more situational... stairwell full of Pe Choi shit, anyone... and less being hoist by my own petard (how ARE you lads planning on getting that sheet of red gold out of here?)

Or cisterns full of Pe Choi poop, or trenches full of Pe Choi poop, or...

You think we detected a trend, there, my General?