If you take the phrase I quoted,Originally Posted by AsenRG
"beams, rods, cones, stilettos, icepicks, corkscrews, knives, forks, and spoons of energy raved against the screens of the Dentless."
and enter it in its entirety into Google, the first link you get is the Wikipedia page for "Backstage Lensman" by Randall Garret.
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If only I did!
But I didn't, and instead, my question was answered, by different people who didn't see a problem with it.
Why do you still have a problem with it, Gronan, or is it a problem with me?
Oh, yes - Phil thought in very long terms.
Years? That's meticulous planning if I've ever seen it...
Well, I'm sensing some interesting stories here...
Tell me about the twins
Also, how many natural children does Chirine have?
Follow-up question, you listed a big family with two co-wives and several "aunties". Did you have any co-husbands?
The twins are mine and Si N'te's little bundles of joy. Phil rolled them up, and commented he'd created two little monsters - one boy, one girl. They both inherited my abilities as a magic-user, and the wife's abilities as a telepath. She's from the Nyemesel Islands, where they have the 'good' telepaths; their very nasty cousins live in Lost Bayarsha, which is a place I do not advise visiting. The 'natural' telepaths were bred for their ability by the ancient Lords of Humanspace, like the way that they bred their Space Marines - the Nylss - and the deckhands for their starships - the Nom. The telepaths' genetic marker - and this was before DNA had been discovered, remember - is a lack of any body hair.
So, the twins were born while we were fighting the Sirsum Campaign, at the Monastery of the Many Falling Leaves about a week's march east of Hekellu. (Try running a military campaign with a heavily pregnant wife, sometime; it was a little too exciting.) They have grown up into two holy terrors, as they are perfectly normal toddlers who can vaporize you if them wanted to. Since they are telepaths, they have picked up all of mommy and daddy's spells, and while they can't blast big things, they can be hard on their toys. I am happy to say that they have also inherited their mother's good looks and even better nature, so we don't have many problems with them.
Their Ladyships refer to them as "our scrumptious little darlings", and dote on them; they are naturally cute and adorable, and their good natures simply ad to their winsome ways. They find their father (me) a never-ending source of amusement, and tend to break out into laughter when I come into the room and say something...
(One cautionary note: The twins got some 'dolls' as gifts when they were infants, and these are still their constant night-time companions. These were a gift from the Clan of the Striding Incantation, the very ancient and very high-status magical puppeteers' clan; we never, ever mess with or play with them ourselves, and only the twins handle them. We adults call the four 'dolls' The Warrior, The Priestess, The Sorceror, and The Soldier; what the twins call them, they're not sharing with us.)
That's two natural children; the third is Elara, who is a perfectly normal girl in her late teens. Luckily, she looks more like her mother then she does me - I do look like her mother, though, so there's a very strong family resemblance. She's not a magic-user, or a warrior; just a normal girl, who happens to have a large extended family.
There are the adopted kids, all of whom just sort of happened. They are relatives of various friends, allies, and people we know who wound up with us - usually, they have a bit of a history behind them, like any good NPCs, butt hey are good kids. About half of them are on the legion rolls, as they are pretty good officers - over and above the family connection, otherwise we would not have them in command of troops. The other half, more or less, are on the payroll as palace staff, keeping the place running. Two have achieved relatively high office, and I am very proud of them. I'm proud of all of them, really; all they needed was a little parenting, I think.
I can tell you all about them...
I do not have any co-husbands. (There are days when I could use the reinforcements, but we manage to work things out.) Their Ladyships - more formally, the Senior Wife, the Junior Wife, the First Concubine, the Second Concubine, and the Senior Courtesan - haven't found anyone that they like well enough to invite into the family, so I soldier on by myself as The Husband. The Senior Wife, in her capacity as Lady Of The House, writes up everyone's marriage contracts after lots and lots of negotiations. All of Their Ladyships (in order of seniority: the telepath, the scholar, the assassin, the sorceress, and the buccaneer - I have a very eclectic family!) get the kind of relationships that they want; it helps that they all knew each other for years before they were formally married to Yours Truly, and they're a pretty tightly-knit group.
I think I don't have any co-husbands because Their Ladyships have been described as 'formidable', and while they are not actively recruiting (I think) it may very well be that their individual and collective reputations may be scaring potential suitors off.
Me, I'm happy; they let me run the military, letting me do what I do best.
How's this for a short introduction?
Problem, no. Just giving you crap, that's all. Where's that "poking somebody with a stick" smiley when you need it?If only I did
But I didn't, and instead, my question was answered, by different people who didn't see a problem with it.
Why do you still have a problem with it, Gronan, or is it a problem with me?
Also, I never know how much people know about how Google really works. For instance, did you know if you google "knives, forks, and spoons of energy" Google will take you to Backstage Lensman's wiki page, but only if you include the quotation marks so that Google treats it as one phrase and not separate words?
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That's an excellent introduction! Although I'd offer an alternative explanation for your lack of co-husbands: namely, your wives suspect that you should never give a military expert reinforcements...Oh, yes - Phil thought in very long terms.
The twins are mine and Si N'te's little bundles of joy. Phil rolled them up, and commented he'd created two little monsters - one boy, one girl. They both inherited my abilities as a magic-user, and the wife's abilities as a telepath. She's from the Nyemesel Islands, where they have the 'good' telepaths; their very nasty cousins live in Lost Bayarsha, which is a place I do not advise visiting. The 'natural' telepaths were bred for their ability by the ancient Lords of Humanspace, like the way that they bred their Space Marines - the Nylss - and the deckhands for their starships - the Nom. The telepaths' genetic marker - and this was before DNA had been discovered, remember - is a lack of any body hair.
So, the twins were born while we were fighting the Sirsum Campaign, at the Monastery of the Many Falling Leaves about a week's march east of Hekellu. (Try running a military campaign with a heavily pregnant wife, sometime; it was a little too exciting.) They have grown up into two holy terrors, as they are perfectly normal toddlers who can vaporize you if them wanted to. Since they are telepaths, they have picked up all of mommy and daddy's spells, and while they can't blast big things, they can be hard on their toys. I am happy to say that they have also inherited their mother's good looks and even better nature, so we don't have many problems with them.
Their Ladyships refer to them as "our scrumptious little darlings", and dote on them; they are naturally cute and adorable, and their good natures simply ad to their winsome ways. They find their father (me) a never-ending source of amusement, and tend to break out into laughter when I come into the room and say something...
(One cautionary note: The twins got some 'dolls' as gifts when they were infants, and these are still their constant night-time companions. These were a gift from the Clan of the Striding Incantation, the very ancient and very high-status magical puppeteers' clan; we never, ever mess with or play with them ourselves, and only the twins handle them. We adults call the four 'dolls' The Warrior, The Priestess, The Sorceror, and The Soldier; what the twins call them, they're not sharing with us.)
That's two natural children; the third is Elara, who is a perfectly normal girl in her late teens. Luckily, she looks more like her mother then she does me - I do look like her mother, though, so there's a very strong family resemblance. She's not a magic-user, or a warrior; just a normal girl, who happens to have a large extended family.
There are the adopted kids, all of whom just sort of happened. They are relatives of various friends, allies, and people we know who wound up with us - usually, they have a bit of a history behind them, like any good NPCs, butt hey are good kids. About half of them are on the legion rolls, as they are pretty good officers - over and above the family connection, otherwise we would not have them in command of troops. The other half, more or less, are on the payroll as palace staff, keeping the place running. Two have achieved relatively high office, and I am very proud of them. I'm proud of all of them, really; all they needed was a little parenting, I think.
I can tell you all about them...
I do not have any co-husbands. (There are days when I could use the reinforcements, but we manage to work things out.) Their Ladyships - more formally, the Senior Wife, the Junior Wife, the First Concubine, the Second Concubine, and the Senior Courtesan - haven't found anyone that they like well enough to invite into the family, so I soldier on by myself as The Husband. The Senior Wife, in her capacity as Lady Of The House, writes up everyone's marriage contracts after lots and lots of negotiations. All of Their Ladyships (in order of seniority: the telepath, the scholar, the assassin, the sorceress, and the buccaneer - I have a very eclectic family!) get the kind of relationships that they want; it helps that they all knew each other for years before they were formally married to Yours Truly, and they're a pretty tightly-knit group.
I think I don't have any co-husbands because Their Ladyships have been described as 'formidable', and while they are not actively recruiting (I think) it may very well be that their individual and collective reputations may be scaring potential suitors off.
Me, I'm happy; they let me run the military, letting me do what I do best.
How's this for a short introduction?
That reminds me of two questions:
What's the status of children of concubines compared to the status of legal wives?
If someone who already has an extended family wants to become co-husband to someone who already has another family, do they have to get everyone's approval? Or do the families just merge as soon as they go to a priest and pronounce vows?
Well, I see your predicament. I've been looking for the same smiley almost since I'm on this board.
And yes, I know that. I just didn't think to google it, neither with nor without quotation marks!
Short term thinking does seem to be more of a new trend.
Anyway, while I love all the details of the family, it isn't something that is easy to directly apply to starting players (besides how their new contacts fit into the scheme of things).
What may be more useful to new players is the types of inter-clan and intra-clan scheming that is going on or can be expected.
"Country Bumpkins" need interesting things they can become involved in and survive. (Assuming they have some level of common sense.)
How hostile is life in general? From your family size I have to assume it is a very "Dog eat Dog" world since high population and limited resources breeds intense competition for everything.
Does this competition effect every aspect of life?
I didn't get a feeling of internal family backstabbing besides the no co-husband.
Am I completely into "My Tekumel" and not the one you experience?
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I thought you were creating parody rather than quoting a parody, so I never bothered to search... or to put it another way, I knew the original source and was unaware of the published parody.
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You should read it, it' s pretty funny.
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I'm not a huge fan of parody, but I'll look for it. At least it sounds more like parody written by someone who likes the original than what seems the more common form where the parody is written by someone who despises the source.
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It could very well be; I keep my nose out of the household's workings. Better that way, I've found.That's an excellent introduction! Although I'd offer an alternative explanation for your lack of co-husbands: namely, your wives suspect that you should never give a military expert reinforcements...
That reminds me of two questions:
What's the status of children of concubines compared to the status of legal wives?
If someone who already has an extended family wants to become co-husband to someone who already has another family, do they have to get everyone's approval
All children of all partners have the same legal status. There's no concept of bastardy in Tekumel.
There is not a lot of difference between 'legal wives' and 'concubines'. These terms are English translations of the Tekumelyani terms, and are not entirely accurate. (I can look up the Urdu terms that Phil used, if you like; they are more accurate reflections of what he was talking about.)'Wives' are usually in more responsible positions of running the household affairs and the clan business(es). 'Concubines' are equally responsible for family affairs, but not so much for business affairs.
Yes. A smart suitor, male or female, makes sure to become friendly with and part of the existing family/clan structure and members. Coming in 'cold' very rarely works out, as the 'cold caller' has a much harder time fitting in.
The Temples, at least in the Five Empires, do not conduct marriages. All one does to 'get married' is file the form with the Imperium - the Palace of the Realm - and the spouses move in as has been worked out. Everything is handled by the clans of the newlyweds, and everything has been negotiated in advance. Usually, the new spouse moves into the more wealthy and more high-status clan's clanhouse; the various family may or not make moves as well, depending on the situation.
Now, having said that, it is the custom to have the Temples of the various spouses appear at a party/feast and officially bless the newlyweds, asking the Gods to make sure that the relationship prospers. You'll get some pretty odd combinations, like a Priestess of Lord Sarku doing the blessings with a Priest of Thumis, or any possible combination of the Temples.
Does this help, at all?
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