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    If you think you're going too easy and the players are dreading a TPK, sounds like you've hit a good balance.
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    Did you ever run into anything like the Ellora or Elephanta Caves? Locations that weren't built and then covered over but were just carved from the living rock?

    And all this talk of the Ssu reminds me- did you ever capture one? or a Hluss? Just to see if you could see what makes them tick, aside from pure Hate?

    Also, I know that everyone burns/destroys the Food if they find it growing and cultivating it is a no-no. Can you get in trouble if it is growing on your property without your knowledge? Would an apothecary get in deep water for having a pod for study purposes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Andy View Post
    Did you ever run into anything like the Ellora or Elephanta Caves? Locations that weren't built and then covered over but were just carved from the living rock?

    And all this talk of the Ssu reminds me- did you ever capture one? or a Hluss? Just to see if you could see what makes them tick, aside from pure Hate?

    Also, I know that everyone burns/destroys the Food if they find it growing and cultivating it is a no-no. Can you get in trouble if it is growing on your property without your knowledge? Would an apothecary get in deep water for having a pod for study purposes?
    Yes, many times; you find sites like this anywhere there's good rock, and people have been living at some point in time. The mountains north and east of Hekellu are full of them, and we did manage to look in at a few during our campaign up there.

    No. Usually, between us and them, it was a 'you-are-surprised/you-surprise-them situation, and it was kill or be killed. I don't recall we ever had time to even think about trying to capture one.

    No. Just file a report and burn the stuff when the surviving people report it. No, as long as their temple and the Imperium knew about it; file the report, get the permit - pay the bribe / fee, of course - and you're fine. Just don't try growing the stuff in the clanhouse garden; that will get you in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Just don't try growing the stuff in the clanhouse garden; that will get you in trouble.
    Auntie Birrka wants to talk to you about what happened to her flower garden...
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    Quick follow-up to the "crown jewels" question:

    The Foundation says that one of their more distant goals is a Stability companion to Ebon Bindings. Personally, I think that would be a very worthy project, one that has been on fan wish lists for a long time.

    But I wonder, is there enough Barker material that could be compiled for this, or is this something where the Foundation would have to make up a bunch of new, original content?
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    Have you seen that Dyson's Dodecahedron is doing a new project he is calling My Private Jakalla? He does gorgeous work and has done numerous Tekumel themed maps in the past. Now he is doing a big Tekumel mega-dungeon inspired by Jakalla. Some really neat takes building on the the Good Prefessor's ideas. I believe he plays in James Maliszewski Tekumel game. Good to see new content for Tekumel, and Dyson does good work.
    Here are some links:
    Main link https://rpgcharacters.wordpress.com/...ivate-jakalla/

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DysonLo...YTWmf?sfc=true
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DysonLo...LV5rW?sfc=true


    Quick modeling question- have you fooled around with a 3d printer at all? I know they are becoming rather big in the terrain world, with some amazing stuff being produced. Anything catch your eye?


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    Auntie Birrka wants to talk to you about what happened to her flower garden...
    Sounds like another Cause of Death - Tekumel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zirunel View Post
    Quick follow-up to the "crown jewels" question:

    The Foundation says that one of their more distant goals is a Stability companion to Ebon Bindings. Personally, I think that would be a very worthy project, one that has been on fan wish lists for a long time.

    But I wonder, is there enough Barker material that could be compiled for this, or is this something where the Foundation would have to make up a bunch of new, original content?
    Um, okay; let me see if I can provide a useful answer.

    The 'change' / 'chaos' emphasis in Phil's campaign comes from the reality that just about all of his PCs in his games were of that alignment; Gronan, was very unusual, what with being Stability, and was unique for something like six-eight years of game play. Phil didn't get many Stability players, so the questions and answers that provided so much of his inspiration wasn't there for most of the time. 'White Bindings', perforce, could be done by combing through all of the extant documents to find what few bits - like the Belkhanu 'demons' in S&G - there are, as well as going through the Blue Room archives for more such material. The audio tapes might help; one of the interviewers played a priest of Belkhanu for many years, so there's something like three hours of 'new' (1980s) material there.

    Could it be done? Probably, but my gut feeling - without doing the research myself - is that it might be a little thin on the ground. If I were the one commissioning it, I'd want to get a very good writer to do it - they would have to be up to 'Ebon Bindings' standards.

    Basically, if you want my honest answer, we won't know until somebody commits to the time and effort to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Andy View Post
    Have you seen that Dyson's Dodecahedron is doing a new project he is calling My Private Jakalla? He does gorgeous work and has done numerous Tekumel themed maps in the past. Now he is doing a big Tekumel mega-dungeon inspired by Jakalla. Some really neat takes building on the the Good Prefessor's ideas. I believe he plays in James Maliszewski Tekumel game. Good to see new content for Tekumel, and Dyson does good work.
    Here are some links:
    Main link https://rpgcharacters.wordpress.com/...ivate-jakalla/

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DysonLo...YTWmf?sfc=true
    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DysonLo...LV5rW?sfc=true
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    Quick modeling question- have you fooled around with a 3d printer at all? I know they are becoming rather big in the terrain world, with some amazing stuff being produced. Anything catch your eye?
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    Sounds like another Cause of Death - Tekumel
    Yes, I have, and yes, it's good. This kind of thing is what's really needed for Tekumel, and I'm very happy to see it.

    I will admit to it; I'm spoiled. I have Phil's Jakalla, with all the notes and maps, and I have it in a digital version that I use in games. (My Missus was doing an updated version, from Phil's notes, fixing his handwriting and map symbols.) I have a Sony 40" in the game room, and I just bring the maps up when I need them. Likewise, I projected this on the wall for my Gary Con game two years ago - having an LCD projector makes stuff like this easy - and it seemed to help. Ask Gronan what he thought about it; he was in the game.
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    No; I lack the skills to do anything like this. I do have a friend who is a professional at it, though, and he's kind enough to do things for me from time to time. Simply amazing stuff, and I have really enjoyed working with him to make things appear that I had been dreaming of for forty years. It's like with Mr. Lucas and his films; the technology has finally caught up with Phil's vision of what was in his world.
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    Precisely!

    Which is why we tended to be very careful players, over the years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Um, okay; let me see if I can provide a useful answer.

    The 'change' / 'chaos' emphasis in Phil's campaign comes from the reality that just about all of his PCs in his games were of that alignment; Gronan, was very unusual, what with being Stability, and was unique for something like six-eight years of game play. Phil didn't get many Stability players, so the questions and answers that provided so much of his inspiration wasn't there for most of the time. 'White Bindings', perforce, could be done by combing through all of the extant documents to find what few bits - like the Belkhanu 'demons' in S&G - there are, as well as going through the Blue Room archives for more such material. The audio tapes might help; one of the interviewers played a priest of Belkhanu for many years, so there's something like three hours of 'new' (1980s) material there.

    Could it be done? Probably, but my gut feeling - without doing the research myself - is that it might be a little thin on the ground. If I were the one commissioning it, I'd want to get a very good writer to do it - they would have to be up to 'Ebon Bindings' standards.

    Basically, if you want my honest answer, we won't know until somebody commits to the time and effort to do it.
    Thanks. Yes that was my sense, that there are snippets but they would add up to the "Post-It Note of Ivory Bindings." Whereas a really worthwhile "companion-work" would require a dumpload of new ideas. Whether well-done or not, I suspect we're talking new content here

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    And yes about the "very good writer." Ivory Bindings, or Crystal Bindings, whatever, would have to live up to Ebon Bindings or go down in flames. Especially if it was mostly new content and lacked the authority of received wisdom from the Professor, it would have to be better than good.

    And Ebon Bindings is the Professor at his most immersive, erudite, and masterful. That would be a damn tough act to follow
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