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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFMSV View Post
    Yeah. I'm not about to start thinking of Tekumel as a Lensman spin-off, or anything like that, but if there was a shared "Doc" Smith fantasy tech vibe informing the group's ideas about the ancients or extraplanar business, it helps my understanding.
    You have it, exactly. Not a spin-off, but indeed a shared vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    * sob *
    Gosh, if only people had computing machines available, and somebody connected them into some sort of vast world wide computer web... you could goggle at things on this web to find out about them...
    He gets a pass, Glorious General; he's in Europe, and I don't think Phil ever read any of the "Perry Rodan" series.

    And just for you:



    I have a house full of this kind of thing, folks, I've been around for a while, and I've led a very active and interesting life. Kind of like a player-character I know, actually...
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    Doesn't anyone want to talk about my kids? I love to talk about my kids. I am very proud of my kids, and I'll be happy to talk about them for pages and pages and pages...

    Seriously; I am having a lot of fun with this thread, and I hope I'm able to convey some sense of the sheer fun and terror we had with Phil...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    He gets a pass, Glorious General; he's in Europe, and I don't think Phil ever read any of the "Perry Rodan" series.
    Perhaps, but I think Google still functions in Europe. If you google that phrase I quoted the first entry is the wiki page for Backstage Lensman.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    And just for you:



    I have a house full of this kind of thing, folks, I've been around for a while, and I've led a very active and interesting life. Kind of like a player-character I know, actually...
    Clear Ether, Lensman!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Perhaps, but I think Google still functions in Europe. If you google that phrase I quoted the first entry is the wiki page for Backstage Lensman.

    Clear Ether, Lensman!
    Yep, sent him the link.

    Hey, do you know where Origo left the pantosynclastic infandibulator? I had thought he's left it next to the crogulator, but maybe he loaned it to that Priestess of Ksarul you hang out with...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    You have it, exactly. Not a spin-off, but indeed a shared vibe.
    Dear Karakan, yes. Once upon a time referring to another author's work was considered a complement, not "theft of intellectual property."

    Like Poul Anderson's "Old Phoenix Inn" or the scene at the end of Number of the Beast.

    Lord, I miss that world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Hey, do you know where Origo left the pantosynclastic infandibulator? I had thought he's left it next to the crogulator, but maybe he loaned it to that Priestess of Ksarul you hang out with...
    * ZOT! *
    * POOF! *
    "AIEEEE!"


    ... found him....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Dear Karakan, yes. Once upon a time referring to another author's work was considered a complement, not "theft of intellectual property."

    Like Poul Anderson's "Old Phoenix Inn" or the scene at the end of Number of the Beast.

    Lord, I miss that world.

    "When did sitting around a table drinking beer with friends and pretending to be an elf get to be such SERIOUS BUSINESS?" -- Me, interviewed for "Dungeons & Dragons: A Documentary" Jan. 2012, NYC
    Sweet Mother of God, ain't it the truth. I can't even begin to count the number of times we sat in the bar at a convention watching The Big Name Authors swapping ideas, exchanging characters and worlds at the drop of a martini olive. Game conventions, too, not just F/SF conventions.

    Had much the same experience when i got interviewed for a different documentary. The look on the interviewer's face when I described those days was simply priceless - he'd had no idea whatsoever what life was like for you and I.

    Must go for the night - this old dinosaur has a swamp to wallow in...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    * ZOT! *
    * POOF! *
    "AIEEEE!"


    ... found him....

    Actual dialog.

    "Cripes, not again."

    Folks, I used to carry around a little whisk broom and a little dustpan in my 'adventurer's kit' for just this sort of situation. You'd sweep up the ashes of the dear departed player-character, pour the ashes into the Helmet of the Three Pointed Star, push the button, and hope for the best.

    Phil, not missing any chance for possible humor, would have the deceased player roll for being reconstituted and revivified. The chances were all based on the dexterity of the player (usually me) sweeping the ashes up, and trying not to get 'other substances' mixed in with the ashes...

    [Edit: We got a bazillion of these stories, folks. Keep those questions coming, and we'll tell them to you.. ]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren View Post
    Unless I miss my guess, he's referring to the Dauntless a space dreadnaught from the E.E. "Doc" Smith Lensman space opera series from around the 1930s while satirizing Smith's sometimes overblown descriptions of the various ray projectors used for space battles.

    Sometimes if you are old enough and still have at least some of your marbles, you don't even need the Internet to answer trivia questions.
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    That's what I thought that jewelry reference was to!

    Looks like I'm gonna read the lensmen series to get to the bottom of the silver suits.
    Quote Originally Posted by TAFMSV View Post
    Yeah. I'm not about to start thinking of Tekumel as a Lensman spin-off, or anything like that, but if there was a shared "Doc" Smith fantasy tech vibe informing the group's ideas about the ancients or extraplanar business, it helps my understanding.
    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    May I suggest the source of the original quote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstage_Lensman

    Phil was a friend of one Dr. Edward E. Smith, better known in past years as E. E. 'Doc' Smith, author of the 'space opera' "Lensman" series:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensman_series

    Phil knew a lot of very interesting people from the early days of F/SF fandom; Jack Vance, for one. To say that they had an influence on his creation would be an understatement.

    Tekumel is very much a product of a time and place that we can now only glimpse through the moldering pages of fanzines, and curled-up photos of these people having fun at what they called 'conventions'. We followed in their footsteps, and marveled at their creations.

    I still do.
    Thank you to everybody that answered. I googled "Dentless", but got lots of ads for dentists, and decided it's one of the references that got hopelessly tangled due to a new term appearing...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    * sob *

    Gosh, if only people had computing machines available, and somebody connected them into some sort of vast world wide computer web... you could goggle at things on this web to find out about them...
    You could. And you could find your search of Google terms isn't getting you anything related to SF, games, or anything of the sort.
    You're probably a better sort than me* for deciding to not ask for clarification in an "Ask Me Anything" thread. Be happy.

    *What's the goddamn sarcasm font on this board?
    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    "Ah! You are an educated person!" - Klingon officer, "How Much for Just The Planet", by John M. Ford



    Three of us 'got it', that night; Ken Fletcher, Kathy Marshall, and Yours Truly; you and Jean had not been able to be there, that session, and I think Phil mourned not being able to see the look on your face.

    He loved his 'in-jokes', and lovingly prepared them over literally years to spring on people. This was, in my biased opinion, one of the very best ever!
    Years? That's meticulous planning if I've ever seen it...

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Yes, WOW! I don't know if Phil had any really substantial connection planned; he played his cards very close to his chest about things like this; I found nothing in his files on this subject, except the 'Blue Room' posts on the subject, so all I have are my game session notes and the audio tapes we made of game sessions in the late 1980s.

    Please keep in mind that the 'shared universe' concept in F/SF fiction back in the time when Tekumel was first chronicled was a very common one. Howard's heroes battle Lovecraft's Ancient Evils, for example, and Phil - Phillip Barker, fan in good standing with his club, "The Nameless Ones", was a very active part of this vibrant scene.

    Phil was at pains to remind all of us that there are 772 other worlds trapped in pocket universes. We visited a few of them: places like Grey Hawk, Black Moor, and Barsoom. These other worlds, in turn, visited us; some stayed, like the two hobbits milking their expense accounts in Bey Sy, or a man-at-arms named Robert of Barthesville. Others just visit from time to time, causing trouble, getting into adventures, and generally doing what we did in their shared worlds.

    Welcome to the Tekumel Gronan and I lived in for well over a decade. It's a very different place then people expect, I think...
    Well, I was at a SF/Fantasy convention in 2004 (Eurocon, if the name means anything to anyone else). Much the same thing was going on, though they mostly exchanged ideas...
    So the idea is still alive, except it's working around a much more stringent IP law.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Doesn't anyone want to talk about my kids? I love to talk about my kids. I am very proud of my kids, and I'll be happy to talk about them for pages and pages and pages...

    Seriously; I am having a lot of fun with this thread, and I hope I'm able to convey some sense of the sheer fun and terror we had with Phil...
    Well, I'm sensing some interesting stories here...
    Tell me about the twins!
    Also, how many natural children does Chirine have?

    Follow-up question, you listed a big family with two co-wives and several "aunties". Did you have any co-husbands?

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Sweet Mother of God, ain't it the truth. I can't even begin to count the number of times we sat in the bar at a convention watching The Big Name Authors swapping ideas, exchanging characters and worlds at the drop of a martini olive. Game conventions, too, not just F/SF conventions.

    Had much the same experience when i got interviewed for a different documentary. The look on the interviewer's face when I described those days was simply priceless - he'd had no idea whatsoever what life was like for you and I.

    Must go for the night - this old dinosaur has a swamp to wallow in...
    It's still the same, or at least it looked like it last I checked.
    I haven't been to a convention in years, though, not counting the mini-conventions for RPGs we've been organising.

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