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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    I am allied with their ancient foes, who wear interesting jewelry.
    "beams, rods, cones, stilettos, icepicks, corkscrews, knives, forks, and spoons of energy raved against the screens of the Dentless."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    "beams, rods, cones, stilettos, icepicks, corkscrews, knives, forks, and spoons of energy raved against the screens of the Dentless."
    Oh, no way!! Wow!

    That potentially speaks volumes. Is there any substantial bridge between that and the deep history of the planet, or is it strictly alternate reality?

    I suppose it's unlikely, considering the ethnicity of "Civilization" compared to Barker's description of Earth. Maybe it's all ancient history...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    "beams, rods, cones, stilettos, icepicks, corkscrews, knives, forks, and spoons of energy raved against the screens of the Dentless."
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    Oh, no way!! Wow!

    That potentially speaks volumes. Is there any substantial bridge between that and the deep history of the planet, or is it strictly alternate reality?

    I suppose it's unlikely, considering the ethnicity of "Civilization" compared to Barker's description of Earth. Maybe it's all ancient history...
    I suspect that's simply some reference that's not familiar to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    I suspect that's simply some reference that's not familiar to me.
    Unless I miss my guess, he's referring to the Dauntless a space dreadnaught from the E.E. "Doc" Smith Lensman space opera series from around the 1930s while satirizing Smith's sometimes overblown descriptions of the various ray projectors used for space battles.

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    That's what I thought that jewelry reference was to!

    Looks like I'm gonna read the lensmen series to get to the bottom of the silver suits.
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    Yeah. I'm not about to start thinking of Tekumel as a Lensman spin-off, or anything like that, but if there was a shared "Doc" Smith fantasy tech vibe informing the group's ideas about the ancients or extraplanar business, it helps my understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    I suspect that's simply some reference that's not familiar to me.
    * sob *




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    "beams, rods, cones, stilettos, icepicks, corkscrews, knives, forks, and spoons of energy raved against the screens of the Dentless."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAFMSV View Post
    Oh, no way!! Wow!

    That potentially speaks volumes. Is there any substantial bridge between that and the deep history of the planet, or is it strictly alternate reality?

    I suppose it's unlikely, considering the ethnicity of "Civilization" compared to Barker's description of Earth. Maybe it's all ancient history...
    Yes, WOW! I don't know if Phil had any really substantial connection planned; he played his cards very close to his chest about things like this; I found nothing in his files on this subject, except the 'Blue Room' posts on the subject, so all I have are my game session notes and the audio tapes we made of game sessions in the late 1980s.

    Please keep in mind that the 'shared universe' concept in F/SF fiction back in the time when Tekumel was first chronicled was a very common one. Howard's heroes battle Lovecraft's Ancient Evils, for example, and Phil - Phillip Barker, fan in good standing with his club, "The Nameless Ones", was a very active part of this vibrant scene.

    Phil was at pains to remind all of us that there are 772 other worlds trapped in pocket universes. We visited a few of them: places like Grey Hawk, Black Moor, and Barsoom. These other worlds, in turn, visited us; some stayed, like the two hobbits milking their expense accounts in Bey Sy, or a man-at-arms named Robert of Barthesville. Others just visit from time to time, causing trouble, getting into adventures, and generally doing what we did in their shared worlds.

    Welcome to the Tekumel Gronan and I lived in for well over a decade. It's a very different place then people expect, I think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    I suspect that's simply some reference that's not familiar to me.
    May I suggest the source of the original quote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backstage_Lensman

    Phil was a friend of one Dr. Edward E. Smith, better known in past years as E. E. 'Doc' Smith, author of the 'space opera' "Lensman" series:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lensman_series

    Phil knew a lot of very interesting people from the early days of F/SF fandom; Jack Vance, for one. To say that they had an influence on his creation would be an understatement.

    Tekumel is very much a product of a time and place that we can now only glimpse through the moldering pages of fanzines, and curled-up photos of these people having fun at what they called 'conventions'. We followed in their footsteps, and marveled at their creations.

    I still do.

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