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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post

    Gronan and I are survivors of a time and place in gaming history when game play was the thing, and fun games the objective; how we got there was nowhere nearly as important as the journey. As I've said before, I'll be here to answer questions as long as people want to ask them. What you do with the answers is really up to you...
    And, at the risk of repeating myself again, this is why this thread is so valuable as a resource. You and the Glorious General were boots (sandals?) on the ground and are a wealth of information. For me I love getting different perspectives on things. Why not find out how you guys played out the battle of Tikrit(sp?), or how Captain Harchar tricked rulers of Mihallu into believing that he was sent by the Priest Kings? If my group is in a similar situation will we, or must we do it the same way? Of course not, but hearing how it was first done is wonderful nevertheless.

    BTW, have you seen the Valiant Miniatures 1/900 pewter biremes, triremes, etc? They look like they would be quite nice for fleet battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel View Post
    And, at the risk of repeating myself again, this is why this thread is so valuable as a resource. You and the Glorious General were boots (sandals?) on the ground and are a wealth of information. For me I love getting different perspectives on things. Why not find out how you guys played out the battle of Tikrit(sp?), or how Captain Harchar tricked rulers of Mihallu into believing that he was sent by the Priest Kings? If my group is in a similar situation will we, or must we do it the same way? Of course not, but hearing how it was first done is wonderful nevertheless.

    BTW, have you seen the Valiant Miniatures 1/900 pewter biremes, triremes, etc? They look like they would be quite nice for fleet battles.

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    Thank you for the kind words; information about 'back then' is what we have and can share. And, as you say, what you do with that information is up to you.

    (Castle Tilketl, by the way; a really miserable little mud-brick abomination of a fort out in the desert that made Fort Zindeneuf look really good in comparison.)

    Yes, I have; I bought mine when they first came out, years and years ago, and they've been bobbing about the seas ever since. Nice little ships, easy to build, and not at all hard to paint up. I've got mine in the yards for repair and restoration; they've seen a lot of service, and they look a little battered. I also have the 'Spanish Main' line from the same company; these provided Harchar's Tnek, back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Agreed. It's what works as play style in the group, I think. And you're right; any set of RPG rules will do just fine, I think, which is why I don't much worry about them.

    Re relevance, I would hope so. I'm hoping that people can take away some stuff that they can use in their campaigns, no matter what the world-setting might be. Or, to mis-quote a previous poster, "Over 80,000 views of this bullshit? Really?"

    Gronan and I are survivors of a time and place in gaming history when game play was the thing, and fun games the objective; how we got there was nowhere nearly as important as the journey. As I've said before, I'll be here to answer questions as long as people want to ask them. What you do with the answers is really up to you...
    Hear, Hear!!! Long may this thread grow!!! May the OAL, Black Y Society, and the Ndalu Clan quickly dispatch any and all threats foreign and domestic...Since we are on the topic, what would/could be an equivalent to a troll on Tekumel?

    I have taken back to travelling the planes. So I hope to be back with fresh questions and requests for your advice after the 22nd day of Shapru...Otherwise, I will pop in while resting from my travels. Be well and thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrugga View Post
    Hear, Hear!!! Long may this thread grow!!! May the OAL, Black Y Society, and the Ndalu Clan quickly dispatch any and all threats foreign and domestic...Since we are on the topic, what would/could be an equivalent to a troll on Tekumel?

    I have taken back to travelling the planes. So I hope to be back with fresh questions and requests for your advice after the 22nd day of Shapru...Otherwise, I will pop in while resting from my travels. Be well and thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    So, in some sense, what we did in the original Thursday Night Group does not seem to resonate much with the larger gaming hobby; I've been told that we're 'irrelevant' to gaming, as we didn't generate enough rules and mechanics and did too much cultural stuff. That may be as is, but I'm writing an account of our adventures, not an RPG. I figure that people reading the thing can do their own games - as Phil said, "Here's my Tekumel, now make it yours..."
    So we talk too much about the social aspects and don't generate rules, but we don't talk enough about the social aspects because we don't require the players to learn to speak Tsolyani?

    I'm so confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    I'm so confused...
    I'm sure it makes much more sense if you read it in the original Tsolyani.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren View Post
    I'm sure it makes much more sense if you read it in the original Tsolyani.
    There you go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    So we talk too much about the social aspects and don't generate rules, but we don't talk enough about the social aspects because we don't require the players to learn to speak Tsolyani?

    I'm so confused...

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    You are correct, my General. When you talk about eating the tribesmen's cloaks, you really should provide a set of tables and dice rolls for how the cloaks are boiled, how they are eaten, and the digestive results. Remember, more rules provides a more accurate simulation of how Phil played. Oh, and you need to define the 'cook' class, too.

    Never mind that Phil would have simply talked this through, with a D100 roll to see who got sick; that's not how things are done, in today's RPGs. More rules, preferably in a massive tome that you can use as a doorstop. (Which is why I liked "Arrows of Indra": great game, with only as many pages as is needed to get the points across.)

    And yes, you need to go to Tsolyani language camp and learn Tsolyani, otherwise you won't be able to 'get' Tekumel.

    Honestly; I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried. I'm just repeating what comes in over the transom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren View Post
    I'm sure it makes much more sense if you read it in the original Tsolyani.
    With the proper interpretation of Tekumel, done by someone with the right credentials. Who can correct your grammar and vocabulary, in order to have a more meaningful discussion of how the verb structures of Salarvyani reflect the deeper aspects of the society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    With the proper interpretation of Tekumel, done by someone with the right credentials. Who can correct your grammar and vocabulary, in order to have a more meaningful discussion of how the verb structures of Salarvyani reflect the deeper aspects of the society.
    Don't they also have to be a non Cis-gendered person of color?
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