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    Uncle, that's an amazing amount of work you did there, says the guy that couldn't finish the same stuff even if he sacrificed all his paid leave.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    I think we'd all be in liver failure in less then fifteen minutes, frankly.

    Same here - I could be a cynic, and ask if Tor has the rights to the series. It also may be that Tor is a little sensitive on the subject of women, given the issues they've had in the recent past.
    I suspect you might be right, alas. On both counts.
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    Three hundred and fifty two pages of this shit? Seriously?
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    Some underworld questions:

    Roughly how many entrances are there? How well known are they? And how many would the average citizen of (Jakalla/whatever city) know about? Could they go oh sure go to blank and talk to so and so, they'll hook you up.

    Physically how big is Jakalla's Underworld? The city has like 45,000 citizens and we know roughly how big the city itself is. Seeing the pictures of it both gives a good indication of scale and a bad one at the same time if that makes any sense. I always assumed most were roughly the size and shape of the city above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    There will be photos. Got the first coat of metallic silver on the thing, over three coats of acrylic filler, two coats of cobalt blue acrylic as a sealer, and one coat of satin black enamel as the undercoat. Both the satin black and the metallic silver are spray enamels, which will dissolve the open-cell polystyrene foam sphere I used as the basis for this model quicker then you can say "Whoops!" and you try to clean the sticky glue out of the carpet. So, two coats of acrylic over the filler, and everything is fine - so far.

    Now, here's one for all of you. The car is a 6" sphere; I am mounting it on a clear Plexiglass base, as there will be times when I will need it as a free-floating model - like when the players wind up in one of the junction stations or the repair yards. My question is: we never ahd a model of either the cars or the stations, so what should I do for a tubeway car station? The opening in the floor for the tubeway will be the same size as the car, with a little 'windage', and as I'm doing this car as a 'midships' model with the door on the greatest diameter, the car will be 'floating about halfway in / out of the tubeway.

    I am leaning in the general direction of a pretty 'generic' station, one that takes these cars and not the big ones, as I think this would get more use in games over time. The base, will have to be about three inches thick, to make the car float at the right level, and I'm wondering if I should try to do a little 'forced perspective' modeling and install the "dim purple lights" that Phil said are in the tunnels. My other option would be to rebate the underlayment for the floor, and have valence lights with purple filters to give a nice glow to the thing as it sits in the station. I am also sort of assuming that I am going to want to do the three colored 'tiles' in the floor that are the panels that summon the cars and indicate status. (LEDs, no problem.) Walls? The service rooms off the corridor that leads to the actual station?

    My thought is that this will be about a foot wide and deep, so that I can use it as a 'super tile' in Underworld adventures. I'll have to make the stairs that lead 'up' from the base level of the game board to the station entrance, but that I can due in my sleep. Same thing with stairs down from the surface, if that's how the players get into the station.

    Comments? Thoughts?

    Hey - would there be any interest in a model of the Underworld in "Tomb Complex of Nereshanbo"? Working water feature is possible - one of the layouts I saw at one of my club's shows had a working canal with canal boats; what knocked the socks off me were the scale swans and cygnets that came along behind the narrowboats... - but to make the thing easier to transport I'd just use poured resin or something.

    I love to build stuff - you think it shows?
    Uncle, a generic station is a good idea. It would be good for me to have a reference point and an idea of the types of rooms/features needed in a station to maintain it. As far as the extras, well purple tube-lights, floor control panel(leds), that all sounds exciting. The only thing that comes to mind is COOL!!! So a generic station would be nice. What time period will your station be from? It might be fun to have a Humanspace era station and then one from maybe Engsvanyali or Bednjallan times(though it may be unneccessary). This could become a major project...

    As far as Nareshanbo goes, Uncle you really tempt me!!! I have the book. I still need to read through it. If any of this is not too much trouble, I say go for it. I for one will always be happy to see what you are up to. I know you want to us to keep you busy...Now it is just a matter of getting there to play!!! Be well Uncle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellri View Post
    Three hundred and fifty two pages of this shit? Seriously?
    Yep! Join the party. Otherwise we'll be seeing you on the Ho Chi Minh trail...Take care either way.

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    Well there is this example to work from when making the station.
    http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1298785940l/1770864.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    I think we'd all be in liver failure in less then fifteen minutes, frankly.

    Same here - I could be a cynic, and ask if Tor has the rights to the series. It also may be that Tor is a little sensitive on the subject of women, given the issues they've had in the recent past.
    I followed the link you posted and I randomly chose three authors whose work I like: Howard, Bellairs, and Wellman. Wow, not much of a PC agenda there. This guy has either not read and comprehended what was written, or is so blinded by ideological bias that he is no longer capable of rational thought. His "misogynistic" this, or "racist" that when talking about the Conan stories raised my blood pressure. God almighty, why do people insist on looking at things through a PC 21st Century lens? Howard wrote in the 30's. Societal norms and values were different then, this does NOt make them wrong within that context.
    His dismissal of Face in the Frost tells me the humour was way over his head. It is meant to be a sarcastic, clich�, parody of the Gandalf motif in Fantasy literature. Of course the main characters called Prospero and Roger Bacon are not the two from Shakespeare and history, respectively. In the first few sentences Bellairs clearly says this: "...Prospero, and not the one your thinking of!", but for some reason this guy needs to make a point of telling us that Prospero is a Shakespearian construct and Roger Bacon was an Eleventh Century monk. "Crom's hairy nut sack!", to quote the Glorious General. As an aside, the scene in the village and forest is one of the most evocative and scary scenes ever written in Fantasy Literature, IMO.
    I will bet good money that he didn't actually read very many, if any, of Manley Wade Wellman's stories. His stuff is as old school "Weird" as anything Lovecraft, C.A. Smith, or Howard ever did. The author dismisses the stories as being merely "old fashioned" as if this is somehow bad. I'm afraid to see what they/he wrote about some of my other favourite authors like Burroughs, or Zelazny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    Uncle, that's an amazing amount of work you did there, says the guy that couldn't finish the same stuff even if he sacrificed all his paid leave.

    I suspect you might be right, alas. On both counts.
    Thank you! For me, what's on the workbench is a pretty normal stack of stuff. There's the tubeway car, the three types of Barsoomian flyers (10, total; the little scout flyers are off to the left, and the medium and large ones under the car), and the fifty figures that I managed to salvage from the big lot I got stripped. I like to keep busy, and to make things.

    Sadly, I have to agree. I've seen a lot of this kind of thing go by in the forty-some years I've been involved with F/SF fandom, but it seems to be a lot worse and a lot more strident these days - the past couple of years or so, it's really been ramping up. Not sure why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kellri View Post
    Three hundred and fifty two pages of this shit? Seriously?
    Yep, seems to be. You'd think that people had some interest in Phil's creation, and / or talking to somebody who's still gaming like it's 1978. Me, I'm still more then a little bit surprised that our antics all those years ago still have some interest for people, but hey; as long as people have questions, I'll try to answer them.

    352 pages, 3,519 posts, 61,605 views, as of a few moments ago. I'm just as surprised as you are, actually, but it is what it is. Pull up a pew. Have a cold one. Make yourself at home.

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