Ahh, fashion and pageantry... it does wonders in conveying mood and wonder. Studio Hollywood knew what it was doing back in the days lighting the screen afire with heart clutching budgets and casts of thousands. Now if only we can sell lush narrative description to the young 'uns as well as player-side "gotcha, GM!" power widgets in the age of '101 More Spells & Class Features to Domin8 Your Table'...
Just make your fuckin' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what's interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis. -- J Arcane
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it's more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman
The pleasure would be all mine. I will have to check my trophy room. I may have a sutible stuffed baddie ready for archery practice. I even have a nice four-bolt steel crossbow not seen to often in the Empires(quite compact). Practice makes perfect my clan-mothers always used to say...Be well my friend.Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel
Mighty Hrugga of the Epics, if you ever make it Pechano let me know. My villa is about half a tsan outside of Teshkoa and I can be found in the archery yard most days. I have a stuffed Black Ssu that makes a wonderful target, although I have to admit that he's getting long in the tooth and a bit tatty. I'll have to replace him soon with a new one. Now unless I'm mistaken I think Lord Chirine mentioned that there were also Green and Brown Ssu. I'll have to get me one. The gates are always open for friends. If you give me enough notice I'll have the local priest of Vihar come over. He's a nice enough fellow and makes great beverages with alcohol, which I believe he calls mixed drinks. After a few of these he becomes the life of the party. Keeps me in stitches he does.
Shemek.
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Wonderful! Thank you!!!
Best of luck at the convention - I hear you about getting people, too...
No, I don't think it has.
Generally, juniors salute seniors. A lower-ranking clan will salute a higher one, and the higher one will return the greeting as a mark of respect and politeness. Temples have specific greetings, like the Temple of Vimuhla's three-fingers (index, middle, ring) laid across the opposite upper arm. The military is usually right fist to left chest, and this is true for all legions - in a military context. The general rule on seniority holds, with the added consideration of the status of the legions involved. Generally, a light legions salutes a medium, salutes a heavy, with date of foundation taken into effect.
Bows are also used, with the depth of the bow dependent on the formality of the occasion and the relative status of the people involved. I don't recall handshakes ever being used, in Phil's games.
Inside the family / clan, the convention seems to be that the junior greets the senior, with 'rank' being by age and generation. "The Junior Wife greets the Senior Wife", is returned in reverse, but this is a very formal usage that generally is seen out in public and very rarely 'in the family'. (If it's being used in the family quarters, it may indicate trouble.) Use of the formal family terms is a mark of respect to one's siblings, elders, and parents; as we've commented here, a lot depends on context and situation.
Does this help, at all?
I'd agree with this. From my admittedly aged perspective, a lot of gaming these days seems to be all about number-crunching and very little about character and setting. 'Roll-playing', compared to 'role-playing'. Not saying what's good or bad, but a comparison between the two styles over time.
Oh yes very much so. One thing, when you mentioned juniors saluting seniors, etc. Is this a physical salute, ie hand to head or more of a verbal salute? " Ave Caesar ", or something similar in Tsolyani. Would you be able to share some other Temple salutes like Karajan's or Ksarul. I believe Phil describes the Sarku Temple Salute as a sketch of his worm symbol in the air.
Shemek.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Mark Twain
I feel the same way sometimes. When did numbers usurp imagination? I didn't get that memo.
Shemek.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.
Mark Twain
When they started marketing to 13 year old non wargamers. Take a bunch of 13 year old boys, remove adult supervision, give one of them the tiny shred of nugatory authority of being a DM, and... well, we've all read "Lord of the Flies," right? So more rules became "necessary" for their target audience.
I don't care if you respect me, just buy my fucking book.
Formerly known as Old Geezer
I don't need an Ignore List, I need a Tongue My Pee Hole list.
The rules can't cure stupid, and the rules can't cure asshole.
Salutes are sometimes formal gestures, like the fist to chest of soldiers, but are usually less elaborate. Anything from a nod of the head between equals, to a deep bow and even kneeling before an Imperial Prince or Princess, or a polite bow between different people. The Vimuhla gesture is usually shared between Vimuhla people, as is the Sarku gesture of the Five-Headed Worm. You will also see the 'fingers to one's own lips, then to the other person's lips' but that is very much a lovers' or spouses' gesture. I'll have a look and see what others there are - it's been a while.
Usually, it's verbal, with the most formal greeting being the first one of the day upon meeting someone, and then a 'sir', title, or polite phrase showing respect afterwards. For example, Si N'te is usually addressed as 'Mistress', a polite translation of the Tsolyani word; a little more formal will be 'Lady', short for 'Lady of the House', her formal title as head of the household. (I am not 'Lord of the House'; that's a title and position reserved for the lady of the house, usually the senior wife.) If it's a formal occasion, it's 'Lady' as in 'Your Ladyship', and a temple occasion as 'First Dancer', which is her title and rank in the Temple of Mretten.
I am usually addressed as 'Sir', as most of the time I'm in military situations, and 'Lord' the rest of the time if people need to be formal. At home, it's 'Husband', which may be the title I'm proudest of. Also a family title is 'Poppa', from the kids, as in "Poppa, can I have the palanquin tonight?" If it's a formal temple occasion, then 'Master of the Energies' can be used. If I'm being official when at home, then I might use Their Ladyship's formal titles, as in, "Senior Wife, would you please ask the twins not to practice their sorcery indoors?" Going the other way, the Glorious General would normally address me as 'Kasi', my rank in his legion; I would salute him, and address him by 'my General'. On the other hand, if I was acting in the capacity of an Imperial official that ranked him, he would salute me and use 'Lord'. It can lead to moments where I would give the General an order as a Imperial official, he'd salute, and then he would turn around and give me the same order back again in my 'persona' as his staff Kasi and I'd salute him.
Social inferiors are always treated with respect. (As are superiors, obviously!) One does not make rude remarks to them, as that would show that one is ignoble. I address the household by their first names, when we are 'at home' in the family wing of the house, and by a more formal title like 'Chief Assassin' or 'Mistress' for the Ladies-In-Waiting.
It all depends on the social situation at the moment, and knowing what to say when to whom is a very important part of one's education. In general, be polite and respectful, and you'll do fine. The words show in very accurate manner what the social relationships are, and are how society functions.
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Oh, dear. That would explain a few things...
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