Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal

Originally Posted by Bren

Slight misunderstanding. Let me break my though process down. That should clear things up.

• Since they had been playing with Phil for a while, I assumed those guys had characters who were above first level.
• So first you kill those characters and loot their stuff. They are above first level so they may have some good stuff.
• Then you go after any back up characters they have who are above level one and kill them and take their stuff.
• Now they are left with first level characters. So you kill them and take their stuff. It's not great stuff, but it can outfit some NPC followers or upgrade some hirelings.
• Then you kill the next couple of first level characters they roll up and take their paltry stuff.
• Now gaming with you, is not much fun for them.
• So by now the point should be made that those guys should stop trying to screw with you and your friends since it won't end well for them.
• They might be able to extrapolate from that to realize that screwing with people gets you screwed and being screwed isn't much fun, and change their play style.
• Sadly, from other comments by OG and Chirine, those guys sound dumb as a box of hammers so they never grasped that.

Now the above is what I would have done as a teenage gamer. Nowadays I'm a lot older and a bit wiser. I don't game with assholes and as the usual GM, I'd just kick their real life ass to the curb so they and their characters would cease to be a problem to my table.

I see, sorry for the misunderstanding! I didn't get you mean specifically griefer players, since you mentioned inviting friends!

And we still proceed this way. Everyone gets one chance before being booted. Well, every griefer does, OOC issues are acted upon more harshly!
Still, you can usually make them overcome it if you apply enough peer pressure!

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Why should it be either/or?

Because the question was based on the printed EPT rules having an example of a temple with a demon. I was asking if the focus was on the temple or the demon. The answer could easily have been "both" ... but wasn't.
Which was the point of asking.

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Doesn't it work like this in all possible settings?

Before I assume so in this case, I'll ask to have it confirmed (or not).
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Originally Posted by Greentongue

Because the question was based on the printed EPT rules having an example of a temple with a demon. I was asking if the focus was on the temple or the demon. The answer could easily have been "both" ... but wasn't.
Which was the point of asking.



Before I assume so in this case, I'll ask to have it confirmed (or not).
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Well, my point was simply that no matter the rules as intended, you gain more by variety.

Hint: it works like that even today.

Originally Posted by Bren

I meant invite friends so our characters could gang up on the Dipshits or griefers as you call them.

Griefers Hunting Party:;?

Originally Posted by Old Geezer

Phil would say "Stop thinking like a 20th Century Midwesterner." (this was before 2000.)

The Tsolyani do not have a societal prohibition on sex like America does. (In fact, a lot of cultures in real life think the US is pretty messed up sexually.) A chest of sex toys in his bride to be's bedchamber would not cause a typical Tsolyani man to blink an eye.

Being 'A Good Clan Girl' means doing what your mother and "aunties" tell you to, doing nothing in public that shows "ignoble action," and marrying who you're told to for the advantage of your clan.

I suspect "in public" is a keyword here!

Originally Posted by Bren

And as you know, there's a fair number of people inside the US who think our culture is pretty messed up sexually. Because, of course, it is.

Even I've talked to such people.

Originally Posted by Old Geezer

Phil would say "Stop thinking like a 20th Century Midwesterner." (this was before 2000.)

The Tsolyani do not have a societal prohibition on sex like America does. (In fact, a lot of cultures in real life think the US is pretty messed up sexually.) A chest of sex toys in his bride to be's bedchamber would not cause a typical Tsolyani man to blink an eye.

I can't control the expectations of my potential players.
I'm going for, "Those are Bad People! We must Stop Them!" and playing to what raises that reaction in the players.
How far it is from what the characters would think is the concern.

That naturally raises the question, what would would cause that reaction in the characters? (and still be something the players would recognize?)
While the Pale Bone may motivate people that know the setting, those that are just starting would have no idea.

On the other hand, what engages new players from your experience?
(Besides SHINY!!)
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