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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel View Post
    Chirine,

    I have recently been rereading the Tekumel novels. I am currently finishing Man of Gold. You said that the Temple of Sarku scene was lifted from a session of the Thursday Night Group's game. Exactly which parts were Chirine and the Glorious General involved in? That part where Hele'a of Ghaton was sacrificed to the One of Mouths was especially evocative. Did you guys witness that in the game, or something similar?
    Also, unless I'm mistaken weren't you part of the "Secret Thumis Mission"?

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    It was the bit where the protagonists are being chased around the place, before they're captured. And yes, we got en eyeful of sacrifices to the Worm Lord; not that particular one, though.

    Yes; we're the fabled 'Secret Mission'! See next reply...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Was that "Gamalu's Secret Mission," Chirine?
    It was, indeed. Lord Gamalu is, if you wanted my personal opinion, a fathead.

    Being a player, one of the upstate New York crowd, he got the bright idea that he should help the Livyani invade the Tsolei Isles. The Imperium was not as enthusiastic, but to keep him happy (and keep his money coming in) we got 'volunteered' to wander out there and 'advise' the Livyani on how to do things.

    The whole thing was supposed to be a big secret, so of course everybody on the planet was in on it. We'd show up in Mu'uglavya, for example, and get the run-around until they figured out that we were The Secret Mission, and after that is all smooth sailing.

    It got to the point where I used some spare figures to make a set of banners, done in my best 'circus' typefonts, that said "HERE COMES LORD GAMALU'S SECRET MISSION!" to lead the party, and "THERE GOES LORD GAMALU'S SECRET MISSION!" to be the last thing you saw of us. I added flower-flingers, trumpeters, fan-bearers, drummers, lackeys throwing coins to the crowd, and all the usual stuff you'd expect to see in a Very Important And Very Secret Mission. (These days, you can get a marching band and cheerleaders. Yes, I would have.)

    TAAA TAAA TAAARRAAA! ZING! BANG! BOOM! and so on...

    Once he got over the initial shock, Phil laughed so hard I thought he was going to puke his Mountain Dew / Old Ahoggya Piss. ("It's what's in the Ahoggya that makes it yellow!") No shame; no shame at all, that's us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    They are; it's a thread that runs all through Phil's texts. I do know that The One Other was part of imprisoning Lord Ksarul, and seems to be very quietly tolerated in official circles. Still tried very hard to stay away from them, though.

    Oh! I think you have something, there!
    *scribbling notes*

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Well, it was in my case, anyway. I learned the hard way to have spare weapons handy; on more then one occasion I'd toss one of the spares to another member of the party who was in trouble. "All for one, one for all!"

    I love 'visual aids'! It makes the game a lot more fun, and the players seem to like being able to hold something like a sword or astrolabe; makes it more 'immediate', somehow...
    If doctrinal reasons don't apply to Chirine ba Kal, they probably don't to others, either. They might be just deluded by, ahem, misinterpretations of the holy texts!

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    It was, indeed. Lord Gamalu is, if you wanted my personal opinion, a fathead.

    Being a player, one of the upstate New York crowd, he got the bright idea that he should help the Livyani invade the Tsolei Isles. The Imperium was not as enthusiastic, but to keep him happy (and keep his money coming in) we got 'volunteered' to wander out there and 'advise' the Livyani on how to do things.

    The whole thing was supposed to be a big secret, so of course everybody on the planet was in on it. We'd show up in Mu'uglavya, for example, and get the run-around until they figured out that we were The Secret Mission, and after that is all smooth sailing.

    It got to the point where I used some spare figures to make a set of banners, done in my best 'circus' typefonts, that said "HERE COMES LORD GAMALU'S SECRET MISSION!" to lead the party, and "THERE GOES LORD GAMALU'S SECRET MISSION!" to be the last thing you saw of us. I added flower-flingers, trumpeters, fan-bearers, drummers, lackeys throwing coins to the crowd, and all the usual stuff you'd expect to see in a Very Important And Very Secret Mission. (These days, you can get a marching band and cheerleaders. Yes, I would have.)

    TAAA TAAA TAAARRAAA! ZING! BANG! BOOM! and so on...

    Once he got over the initial shock, Phil laughed so hard I thought he was going to puke his Mountain Dew / Old Ahoggya Piss. ("It's what's in the Ahoggya that makes it yellow!") No shame; no shame at all, that's us.
    That's an excellent way of cutting through red tape. And of course, secrets in front of everybody is so very Lyviani!
    Did that get you prestige, as it should?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    'hi' is mostly found in the central parts of the Imperium. 'vu' is from the island of Vra, and 'ba' is from the Chakas.

    The Itos are a clan, first and foremost, and they don't seem to use lineages much - I'll look in the database for you and see what I can find. I do not recall ever hearing anyone called 'hi Ito' or 'ba Ito', though.
    Oh OK. I thought the Ito were like the Vriddi, ancient, arrogant, and self important. Not using lineages and such makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Well, it was in my case, anyway. I learned the hard way to have spare weapons handy; on more then one occasion I'd toss one of the spares to another member of the party who was in trouble. "All for one, one for all!"

    I love 'visual aids'! It makes the game a lot more fun, and the players seem to like being able to hold something like a sword or astrolabe; makes it more 'immediate', somehow...
    Me too. I have been using props forever. I agree with what say about it being "immediate". I recently picked up a toy from the Dollar Store called "Finger Lasers".
    They are perfect replicas for Eyes, and they have a bright little LED to provide an "action effect" They come 5 to a pack, sacrificed one to my granddaughter, for the greater good, and was left with four for game use.
    Props can also clarify any in game discrepancies, or doubts. I once had a player, who was 6' 2", adamantly maintain that he should get to roll full damage with a falchion while fighting in a 7' high x 5' wide corridor. I explained that it was a slashing/chopping weapon and that he didn't have enough space for a swing, and that a stab was all he could manage,which means less damage. He argued and wouldn't let it go. I finally got my sabre, brought him into the basement, which had a 7' ceiling near the furnace room, and told him to try and slash with it. Needless to say that the ceiling prevented any slash from connecting. Props to the rescue.:cheerleader:

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    It was the bit where the protagonists are being chased around the place, before they're captured. And yes, we got en eyeful of sacrifices to the Worm Lord; not that particular one, though.
    Cool. I bet that was fun and scary at the same time. Those sacrifices must have been very graphic judging from what you have told us about Phil's story telling ability. Any anecdotal reports that you can share?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post

    1It's considered polite to give the owners a little present, mostly 'cause you want to be on good terms with them - and also to make sure that they will open the door when you come running back in panic...

    2Yes! That's my Missus' suit. She looks sooooo cute in it - like a little tank (or tankette, if you prefer) all armored up in stainless steel. The scales are actually Navy surplus lifeboat mirrors we picked up for cheap at the scrap yard. I made the helmet and mask; she did everything else. You should see her Temple sword!

    3She had a Horokangai PC, one of the guards at the Temple of Ksarul out past Hekellu. The black-and-silver triangular trim and the orange trim shows that she's a worshipper of Lord Vimuhla. Phil got to see this suit, and was pretty amazed.
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    1. Players often forget that they have to get out with the loot, or their lives. A locked door in front of you when being chased by baddies sucks.

    2. Tremendous job on both suits.:hatsoff: I just don't see enough of this stuff, as I'm not a convention goer.

    3. I'm not sure I follow you. Was she a worshiper of Vihmuhla and Ksaral? Is this possible for a Temple guard, or people in general?
    A Horokangai? I'm not familiar with this term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    You're welcome; I'm just reporting what I know.

    1. I'd agree with that estimate. There is literally nothing in the files about the process that led to EPT; the first thing we have is the green-cover playtest edition, although I have heard rumors of a typed manuscript being out there somewhere that was mooted as being part of the box of papers that "Beyond This Point Be Dragons" was found in. The three of them were very close-mouthed about how EPT came to be, but then I was asking after The Great Lawsuit had gotten underway, and they were just not in a talkative mood. Can't blame them, really...

    2. I have a bathroom scale, and I know how to use it...
    1. Bah! Humbug! Grumble, grumble, grumble...

    2. Badum Bum. Take my scale, please! I take it everywhere, but it finds its way back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    It was, indeed. Lord Gamalu is, if you wanted my personal opinion, a fathead.

    Being a player, one of the upstate New York crowd, he got the bright idea that he should help the Livyani invade the Tsolei Isles. The Imperium was not as enthusiastic, but to keep him happy (and keep his money coming in) we got 'volunteered' to wander out there and 'advise' the Livyani on how to do things.

    The whole thing was supposed to be a big secret, so of course everybody on the planet was in on it. We'd show up in Mu'uglavya, for example, and get the run-around until they figured out that we were The Secret Mission, and after that is all smooth sailing.

    It got to the point where I used some spare figures to make a set of banners, done in my best 'circus' typefonts, that said "HERE COMES LORD GAMALU'S SECRET MISSION!" to lead the party, and "THERE GOES LORD GAMALU'S SECRET MISSION!" to be the last thing you saw of us. I added flower-flingers, trumpeters, fan-bearers, drummers, lackeys throwing coins to the crowd, and all the usual stuff you'd expect to see in a Very Important And Very Secret Mission. (These days, you can get a marching band and cheerleaders. Yes, I would have.)

    TAAA TAAA TAAARRAAA! ZING! BANG! BOOM! and so on...

    Once he got over the initial shock, Phil laughed so hard I thought he was going to puke his Mountain Dew / Old Ahoggya Piss. ("It's what's in the Ahoggya that makes it yellow!") No shame; no shame at all, that's us.
    This is perfect! I really get the feeling from your accounts that you had as much fun getting one over on Phil as you did adventuring. In fact it seems that often they were part and parcel of the same thing.
    I like the circus atmosphere you arranged. A marching band would have been priceless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    *scribbling notes*

    If doctrinal reasons don't apply to Chirine ba Kal, they probably don't to others, either. They might be just deluded by, ahem, misinterpretations of the holy texts!

    That's an excellent way of cutting through red tape. And of course, secrets in front of everybody is so very Lyviani!
    Did that get you prestige, as it should?
    I don't know if it was doctrinal; Phil tended to get farther and farther from any D&D tropes as time went on. I think that as he got more and more confident with the way we respected his world, he felt more and more comfortable with simply letting us get on with living there.

    Oh, yes. Discounts from merchants, all the best places to stay, you name it. It got pretty funny, actually.

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