Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Agreed; all very true, and you make a lot of sense. I didn't know that the Wargames Factory figures are out of distribution; that's a pain.

At present Warlord has the American War of Independence Line and is bringing out a game with the Zombies and Survivors including a new Biker Gang set and American Special Forces. Other sets will be returning if they don't conflict with Warlord's existing ranges.

For which reason, Dream Forge Games has the World War 2 sets and the Shock Troopers. Though, as far as I can tell, neither company plans to release anything at lower prices than their regular ranges.

I suspect a big part of Wargames Factory's problems stemmed from under pricing their figures. For the first few sets, which were quite crude it made sense but once they hit their stride, I think the low low prices business model just didn't make enough money.

Originally Posted by Greentongue

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A lot of excellent information in this thread.
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I'm sorry, I missed this last night. Thank you for pointing it out!

Wow. You'd think I had something interesting to say, wouldn't you?

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

One reason at last GaryCon I made sure you at least got a chicken sandwich before the EPT game.

Terry Kuntz got a little overenthusiastic with wetting down the sand... we very nearly had actual quicksand on the table.

A lesson you taught us many, many times over the years...

Very, very sorry to hear that. I hope you can get some rest.

And thank you again for that! Remember how many times we'd have to demand meal breaks? This is why I needed the staffing for what had been planned for this year, and why I had to cancel it all when people dropped out. I simply can't do it all by myself, and people seem to have a problem with that concept.

Oh; dear - and there's no good way to get the water back out, either!!!

That's the cool thing about these modern days - no having to look in books, you just ask Google...

Thank you. It's the right orbital sinus, and the pressure builds up so that the eye starts to lose function. It showed up after the brain bleed, and they're not sure what the problem is - no response to the usual antibiotics. I just have to go to bed and stay down for couple of days. The annoying thing is what with the current set of meds I'm on, all the usual pain killers are right out as well. It gets old.

Originally Posted by David Johansen

At present Warlord has the American War of Independence Line and is bringing out a game with the Zombies and Survivors including a new Biker Gang set and American Special Forces. Other sets will be returning if they don't conflict with Warlord's existing ranges.

For which reason, Dream Forge Games has the World War 2 sets and the Shock Troopers. Though, as far as I can tell, neither company plans to release anything at lower prices than their regular ranges.

I suspect a big part of Wargames Factory's problems stemmed from under pricing their figures. For the first few sets, which were quite crude it made sense but once they hit their stride, I think the low low prices business model just didn't make enough money.

Good points; I think you are probably right. Dave Arneson did the same thing at Adventure Games; when we shipped product to, say, Balboa Distributing, we were taking a $1.22 loss on all of the items with a retail price of $4.95. What he was doing was having us cost out products as if they were going to have a 5,000 copy print run, and then only print 250 to 500 of anything. No economy of scale, there. Never did understand the logic, really.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Thank you. It's the right orbital sinus, and the pressure builds up so that the eye starts to lose function. It showed up after the brain bleed, and they're not sure what the problem is - no response to the usual antibiotics. I just have to go to bed and stay down for couple of days. The annoying thing is what with the current set of meds I'm on, all the usual pain killers are right out as well. It gets old.

Sigh. Sorry to hear that. This "getting older" shit ain't for sissies.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Good points; I think you are probably right. Dave Arneson did the same thing at Adventure Games; when we shipped product to, say, Balboa Distributing, we were taking a $1.22 loss on all of the items with a retail price of $4.95. What he was doing was having us cost out products as if they were going to have a 5,000 copy print run, and then only print 250 to 500 of anything. No economy of scale, there. Never did understand the logic, really.

I loved Dave dearly, and I miss him extremely, but on some subjects I never DID figure out what was going on in that little punkin haid of his.

I've got a competitor who figures on losing money until everyone else goes under and then jacking up his prices. It's probably something like that. Well, it's 3 years in and I'm still standing

As they beat into us at the U of MN graduate school of business, "The only time you compete on price is if you're selling a commodity."

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

As they beat into us at the U of MN graduate school of business, "The only time you compete on price is if you're selling a commodity."

If I've learned anything in the last four years it's that I know nothing about business and have no business trying to run one. Even so, I keep trying to make a go of it. I'm ridiculously obstinate and opinionated and I hate admitting I was wrong about things. I never can accept the way things rather than the way I think they should be. Even so, I think I'm building following.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Sigh. Sorry to hear that. This "getting older" shit ain't for sissies.

Thanks for the kind words - I'm better today, after gallons of juice and several days of enforced rest. The medics say less stress, more sleep, and get my sorry ass back to writing. (Got another 1,000 words done, in little slices, so I'm happy.) The sinus drained late Sunday,with a noise like a clogged toilet finally flushing, and the fever broke. So, I'm back in the saddle...