The rules say that Qol run away unless they outnumber their opponents.
Is this still true even when trapped? If they had nowhere to run would they fight back as hard as possible or just surrender?
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The rules say that Qol run away unless they outnumber their opponents.
Is this still true even when trapped? If they had nowhere to run would they fight back as hard as possible or just surrender?
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Wouldn'tthat depend simply on whether they expect to be executed if they surrender?Originally Posted by Greentongue
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
I'm sorry; which set of rules? RPG or miniatures? As I recall, in our encounters with them, they tended to not want to engage us unless they had a distinct advantage in either sheer numbers of warriors or in magic-users - or both. Dry-gulching player-characters was one thing that they did very well, and they also have some pretty good / nasty magic-users. My guess is, since they are artificial life-forms made by those wonderful people in the Temple of Ksarul, they had had their sorcerous abilities enhanced by the Temple.
(Oh, gee whiz, Phil, thank you for that...)
Not that we blamed them; we were just as careful to make sure that we were either better, or had more numbers, or had more high-powered weaponry then the people or creatures that we were encountering; we ran for it quite a lot, as the Jakalla Underworld is pretty deadly in spots.
As for them fighting to the end if they got trapped somehow, yes, it happened all the time. Which was why we kind of tried to leave them - or anything else, for that matter, an escape route. Better a fleeing enemy then one that would fight to the death and do some real damage to us. I'll be right up front about it; we were really risk-averse in the Underworlds. We didn't have a lot of 'revivify' spells handy, and we had a lot invested on our PCs.
Sorry to be so long-winded; was this any help?
Hmmm. Possibly. Normally, in the Underworlds, the Great Concordat doesn't apply, so it gets a little rough when there's a fight. Qol are not Undead, so they tended to be a lot smarter then the usual foes and guardians we faced, and tended to either attack us if they thought that they had the advantage - by a pretty good margin, usually - or they'd avoid us like the proverbial plague.
We normally destroyed any Undead we encountered, but the couple times we managed to actually capture a few Qol we ransomed them back to their masters in the Temple of Ksarul.
Heroic last stands are also historically very popular in Tekumel's cultures; see also "Deeds of the Ever-Glorious" for this kind of thing.
Ah, Sun Tzu, my old master.
Take Chirine's advice, kids; always, ALWAYS leave your enemy an escape route unless you've got at least 4:1 odds in your favor and have an overwhelming need for those buggers to be well and truly dead. "Death Ground" is so named for a reason.
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That was very helpful.
I'd like to stick to "the conventions" when I can and wanted a feel for the mess they may be getting themselves into.
I my case, Hlyss predation has likely left them in a bad mood as well.
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I prefer the Griffiths translation, myself.Ah, Sun Tzu, my old master.
Take Chirine's advice, kids; always, ALWAYS leave your enemy an escape route unless you've got at least 4:1 odds in your favor and have an overwhelming need for those buggers to be well and truly dead. "Death Ground" is so named for a reason.
Right; gotcha. There have been so many rules sets, over the years...
Well, all I can do is say that "Phil did it this way" and "in the period 1976 - 1988" because that's what I saw. I still do it the same way, simply because I don;t know anything else; in effect, I am trapped in time and place.
Oh, my; that's a combination, for you...
Sometimes, they even work.
It's probably no surprise that my favourite chapter is number 13, I guessAh, Sun Tzu, my old master.
Take Chirine's advice, kids; always, ALWAYS leave your enemy an escape route unless you've got at least 4:1 odds in your favor and have an overwhelming need for those buggers to be well and truly dead. "Death Ground" is so named for a reason.
I don't know the name of the translator offhand, but I can tell you that the big green edition which includes Wu Tzu's treaty as well is probably the best one you could find in BulgarianI prefer the Griffiths translation, myself.!
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
Me too.I prefer the Griffiths translation, myself.
... wait, you're the one who lent me that translation.
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