I'm sure it'll be back up, now that you mentioned it.Originally Posted by Zirunel
And I do agree with you, too; it's this kind of interaction that keeps Tekumel alive...
I'm sure it'll be back up, now that you mentioned it.
And I do agree with you, too; it's this kind of interaction that keeps Tekumel alive...
Well, that's a good method of gaining weight, and a fully understandable reasonWell, all right. This is how Phil told me the story...
So he's traveling through Hong Kong, and his passport gets lost. He goes to the US Consulate, and they start the process of getting him a new one. He doesn't have much money, and the Consulate gives him a little bit to tide him over until he can get going again. It's not a lot of money, so Phil stops and thinks.
He leaves the Consulate, and asks a policeman - in the policeman's native Urdu - for directions to the nearest office of the 'Benevolent Society' that controls this part of town. The officer, after doing a double-take, gives him the directions and Phil heads over to the office where he introduces himself as a Fulbright scholar down on his luck, explaining the situation. The society officials confer with him, over much tea and cakes, and a solution is agreed on.
Phil checks into the society's closest brothel, where (for a very nominal sum, he said) he got room and board for a week. (He said that the food was excellent, by the way.) The US Consulate was a little perturbed, he told me, but everybody else was happy; he got a place to stay that was comfortable and clean, the Chinese society got much 'face', and the British police were happy to be of service. The girls of the house were also happy, as they rotated in and out of his room - he had to have one of them there, in order for the place not to be raided and closed down for running an unlicensed hotel. As Phil put it, "I got to learn several more languages, the girls got a lot of time off, and we all gained weight."
And people wonder where he got it all....
Yeah, Demonology is on p.102 and lists the kinds of spirits favoured by different temples...
Seriously, guys, why would you want more guidance than that?
Karakan's and Chegarra's spirits are warriors - Heroes of Glory and Warrior in Scarlet, respectively. Hnalla has the Entities of Light. And so on, and so forth...you can easily get a theme. Yes, these are merely the servitors of the greater demons - but why do you think they would/need to be that different?
My personal rule is, "Stability - simple majestic humanoids, birds or animal-like forms", "Change - mixes of at least two of the above, preferably corpseaters (which you never use for Stability), and/or South Asian/South American mythical creatures, insects, fishes, reptiles and single-cell creatures". Mix and match to your heart's content.
Add more of these to make new Greater Demons for Change, or make them even more majestic, and possibly cross them with usually inanimate, but precious materials, and you can make Greater Demons for Stability!
There, you now have material to write your own Tekumel demonology books. Are they written by MAR Barker? No. Would he approve of them?
In all likelyhood, yes. I believe he would very much approve of them.
Now, the Tekumel Foundation might disapprove, but I didn't say you need to publish them...
Here is a Greater Demon of Avanthe I made after reading the above and thinking for all of 15 seconds.
"Tehanul, the Sky Snake
Tehanul is a great blue-eyed snake made entirely of air. It appears as a simmering form of yellow air which also carries droplets of rain and fertile soil. Where it passes, the flora blooms and starts growing, which means you're better off invoking it in more civilised areas. Indeed, it has been invoked just for its blessings to agriculture, or to give its blessing to barren women or barren prize animals, to calm storms that would threaten a caster's life, or to restore to life and health people afflicted by a seemingly invincible disease.
The being needs to be invoked in a fertile soil ready to be sown, or in the wilderness. If it's invoked on infertile soil, its wrath shall be great, and it might shoot lightning from its glowing blue eyes, which is powerful enough to destroy the caster.
The being likes pearls, and perfect specimens of different kinds of animals, and especially pairs of the above. A caster that wants its blessings, should prepare himself or herself by purifying his or her body, copulating with at least one of his or her legal husbands/wives in a way that might produce offspring, and then intoning the words provided herein while dancing around in a circle with a 60-steps diameter. If the being is pleased, it would appear and you'd be able to negotiate".
Chirine can tell us whether that seems like a suitable demon for Avanthe
Well, remembering what people are able to do in pursuit of or protection of stability is a good way to make yourself shudderAin't that the truth!
"People can be nice. Supernateral creatures just are, like rivers and storms aren't nice" to quote two of my own PCs in different settings (Glorantha and Exalted, if anyone cares). I feel the same would apply to Tekumel as well.
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"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
I think that is a major problem these days.
There seems to be an unwritten rule that you can't "Make Things Up" for your Own Game in a published setting.
I don't feel bad at all to use the base Hlyss from the book and derive a selection of alternate versions.
Am I WRONG to do this? Is it a sin??
=
I suppose it should be a sin. But you know what they say, you go to Heavens for the climate, but to Hell for the company
If all the good GMs are in Hell, that would definitely help explain the quote
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
Of course you aren't wrong. Isn't rpging supposed to be a creative pastime? The sin is to NOT create.
I approve your anti-consumerism stance
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
I'm no authority, but Tehanul works for me. Based on the demons in Mitlanyal, I would also agree with your formula for generating stability demons, but with the proviso that at least some stability demons should have qualities every bit as grotesque, or even repulsive, as those of Change. Good to mix it up a bit.Well, that's a good method of gaining weight, and a fully understandable reason
Yeah, Demonology is on p.102 and lists the kinds of spirits favoured by different temples...
Seriously, guys, why would you want more guidance than that?
Karakan's and Chegarra's spirits are warriors - Heroes of Glory and Warrior in Scarlet, respectively. Hnalla has the Entities of Light. And so on, and so forth...you can easily get a theme. Yes, these are merely the servitors of the greater demons - but why do you think they would/need to be that different
My personal rule is, "Stability - simple majestic humanoids, birds or animal-like forms", "Change - mixes of at least two of the above, preferably corpseaters (which you never use for Stability), and/or South Asian/South American mythical creatures, insects, fishes, reptiles and single-cell creatures". Mix and match to your heart's content
Add more of these to make new Greater Demons for Change, or make them even more majestic, and possibly cross them with usually inanimate, but precious materials, and you can make Greater Demons for Stability
There, you now have material to write your own Tekumel demonology books. Are they written by MAR Barker? No. Would he approve of them?
In all likelyhood, yes. I believe he would very much approve of them.
Now, the Tekumel Foundation might disapprove, but I didn't say you need to publish them...
Here is a Greater Demon of Avanthe I made after reading the above and thinking for all of 15 seconds.
"Tehanul, the Sky Snake
Tehanul is a great blue-eyed snake made entirely of air. It appears as a simmering form of yellow air which also carries droplets of rain and fertile soil. Where it passes, the flora blooms and starts growing, which means you're better off invoking it in more civilised areas. Indeed, it has been invoked just for its blessings to agriculture, or to give its blessing to barren women or barren prize animals, to calm storms that would threaten a caster's life, or to restore to life and health people afflicted by a seemingly invincible disease.
The being needs to be invoked in a fertile soil ready to be sown, or in the wilderness. If it's invoked on infertile soil, its wrath shall be great, and it might shoot lightning from its glowing blue eyes, which is powerful enough to destroy the caster.
The being likes pearls, and perfect specimens of different kinds of animals, and especially pairs of the above. A caster that wants its blessings, should prepare himself or herself by purifying his or her body, copulating with at least one of his or her legal husbands/wives in a way that might produce offspring, and then intoning the words provided herein while dancing around in a circle with a 60-steps diameter. If the being is pleased, it would appear and you'd be able to negotiate".
Chirine can tell us whether that seems like a suitable demon for Avanthe
Well, remembering what people are able to do in pursuit of or protection of stability is a good way to make yourself shudder
"People can be nice. Supernateral creatures just are, like rivers and storms aren't nice" to quote two of my own PCs in different settings (Glorantha and Exalted, if anyone cares). I feel the same would apply to Tekumel as well.
Hey! I'm not anti-consuming, just... pro-creating. Well, not right at this moment, of course!I approve your anti-consumerism stance
I realize the industry's ideal gaming community is one that just passively consumes product and then waits patiently for the next feeding time. I don' t mind consuming a little product now and then, but for that to be the be-all and end-all? no thanks.
I've never seen a copy of Mitlanyal, unless I'm gravely mistaken about the name, and have the PDF of it under a different name.
Still, I'm just applying first principles. Some traits are simply associated with different things. The two pantheons are also associated with different traits. Checking the traits, you get what things are going to be seen as fitting for a god.
That's why Vimuhla faithful shouldn't eat fish, for example, so we know MAR Barker was keenly aware of this fact as well
"The sin is to NOT create", you said
Mind, I'm not talking about anti-consuming, which is an act, but anti-consumerism, which is an attitude
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
Hell of a story, isn't it.Well, all right. This is how Phil told me the story...
So he's traveling through Hong Kong, and his passport gets lost. He goes to the US Consulate, and they start the process of getting him a new one. He doesn't have much money, and the Consulate gives him a little bit to tide him over until he can get going again. It's not a lot of money, so Phil stops and thinks.
He leaves the Consulate, and asks a policeman - in the policeman's native Urdu - for directions to the nearest office of the 'Benevolent Society' that controls this part of town. The officer, after doing a double-take, gives him the directions and Phil heads over to the office where he introduces himself as a Fulbright scholar down on his luck, explaining the situation. The society officials confer with him, over much tea and cakes, and a solution is agreed on.
Phil checks into the society's closest brothel, where (for a very nominal sum, he said) he got room and board for a week. (He said that the food was excellent, by the way.) The US Consulate was a little perturbed, he told me, but everybody else was happy; he got a place to stay that was comfortable and clean, the Chinese society got much 'face', and the British police were happy to be of service. The girls of the house were also happy, as they rotated in and out of his room - he had to have one of them there, in order for the place not to be raided and closed down for running an unlicensed hotel. As Phil put it, "I got to learn several more languages, the girls got a lot of time off, and we all gained weight."
And people wonder where he got it all...
You know, I sometimes think that modern technology is a two edged sword. Nowadays if I were stranded in Hong Kong I could probably have money from a relative ... likely in the form of a limited fund debit card... in a matter of a few hours, and all done by phone, since long distance phone calls are now a trivial expense.
The world may be safer and more certain, but less adventuresome.
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