Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal

Just remember that "Stability" does not equal "nice."

Okay. People have been clamouring for "Stability Demons" as long as I can remember.

You can see a few in the "Book of Crystal Bindings" in the old Visitations of Glory fanzine.

Mitlanyal tries to list Stability Demons as well. Mitlanyal is mostly a compilation of pre-existing information (and includes the non-canon but obviously accepted demons in VoG), so I suspect it includes the demons in SoGII, perhaps with a little more text elaboration. Not positive about that, since I do not have a copy of SoGII, but chances are, there is little more about the subject than you will find in Mitlanyal. Mitlanyal's stability demons may be slim pickings, but I doubt there is a whole lot more out there, so my solution would be: make stuff up!!!!

That's what the writers in VoG did, and turned out there was little else to go on, so their stuff became canon!

Funny how often things seemed to work out that way.

You know, Tekumel's published canon is great, and I do care about it, but it is often sparse, lacking, inconsistent, or simply unlikely to be available in a timely manner. So if you really want a bunch of Stability Demons, don't wait for some canon truth that may never come. Just make stuff up. Write your own "Book of Crystal Bindings." You have bought Tekumel, now make it yours.

Originally Posted by AsenRG

1. And now I think you should tell us about this story, or I can predict a rebellion of your readers!
(The more I listen to your tales, the more Phil Barker starts reminding me of a R.E. Howard, except enjoying the benefits of a much better education and life abroad).

2. I'll try to find the other choice, just in case it's possible.

Well, all right. This is how Phil told me the story...

So he's traveling through Hong Kong, and his passport gets lost. He goes to the US Consulate, and they start the process of getting him a new one. He doesn't have much money, and the Consulate gives him a little bit to tide him over until he can get going again. It's not a lot of money, so Phil stops and thinks.

He leaves the Consulate, and asks a policeman - in the policeman's native Urdu - for directions to the nearest office of the 'Benevolent Society' that controls this part of town. The officer, after doing a double-take, gives him the directions and Phil heads over to the office where he introduces himself as a Fulbright scholar down on his luck, explaining the situation. The society officials confer with him, over much tea and cakes, and a solution is agreed on.

Phil checks into the society's closest brothel, where (for a very nominal sum, he said) he got room and board for a week. (He said that the food was excellent, by the way.) The US Consulate was a little perturbed, he told me, but everybody else was happy; he got a place to stay that was comfortable and clean, the Chinese society got much 'face', and the British police were happy to be of service. The girls of the house were also happy, as they rotated in and out of his room - he had to have one of them there, in order for the place not to be raided and closed down for running an unlicensed hotel. As Phil put it, "I got to learn several more languages, the girls got a lot of time off, and we all gained weight."

And people wonder where he got it all...

Originally Posted by Hrugga

Lord, since you have let the tiuni out of the bag...could you show us some of your handy work...a few of your favorites models...a glimpse would be fantastic!!!

I will check the reference material sited. Thank you much.

H:0)

Well, all right; let me shoot some photos, and I'll be back to you on this.

In the meantime, have a look at the various 'demons' that David Allan has done, over on the Tekumel Yahoo group run by Brett Slocum.

Originally Posted by Hrugga

Ouch!!! If you have Bethorm, spell #74.Demonology(pg102)is the same. It seems that the demons listed are the same as those in S&GII. As for the Demon Princes of Stability that rule the 39 Circles, I will do some more looking. If Mitlanyal has none, then I guess we are out of luck... :0(

H:0)

Oh! Good catch! It's one of the reasons I like "Bethorm"; it's S&G the way it should have been, I think...

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Just remember that "Stability" does not equal "nice."

Ain't that the truth!

Originally Posted by Zirunel

Okay. People have been clamouring for "Stability Demons" as long as I can remember.

You can see a few in the "Book of Crystal Bindings" in the old Visitations of Glory fanzine.

Mitlanyal tries to list Stability Demons as well. Mitlanyal is mostly a compilation of pre-existing information (and includes the non-canon but obviously accepted demons in VoG), so I suspect it includes the demons in SoGII, perhaps with a little more text elaboration. Not positive about that, since I do not have a copy of SoGII, but chances are, there is little more about the subject than you will find in Mitlanyal. Mitlanyal's stability demons may be slim pickings, but I doubt there is a whole lot more out there, so my solution would be: make stuff up!!!!

That's what the writers in VoG did, and turned out there was little else to go on, so their stuff became canon!

Funny how often things seemed to work out that way.

You know, Tekumel's published canon is great, and I do care about it, but it is often sparse, lacking, inconsistent, or simply unlikely to be available in a timely manner. So if you really want a bunch of Stability Demons, don't wait for some canon truth that may never come. Just make stuff up. Write your own "Book of Crystal Bindings." You have bought Tekumel, now make it yours.

Agreed; there just isn't much on a lot of topics. Unless it came up in the campaign, or from somebody contacting Phil, a lot of things were just never touched on - even in passing, a lot of the time.