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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    I'm not sure what they used to teach Fulbright scholars, but combining your accounts: if we remove his handicaps, that man would have felt secure flashing some bills in the bad parts of South Asia...

    Note taken: I'm going to avoid that place.

    Guess I've always been an optimist!
    1. I don't know either, but he did once tell us about his adventures with the tongs in Hong Kong...

    2. Agreed. I wish I'd avoided it, myself, but I didn't have any choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    1. I don't know either, but he did once tell us about his adventures with the tongs in Hong Kong...

    2. Agreed. I wish I'd avoided it, myself, but I didn't have any choice.

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    1. And now I think you should tell us about this story, or I can predict a rebellion of your readers!
    (The more I listen to your tales, the more Phil Barker starts reminding me of a R.E. Howard, except enjoying the benefits of a much better education and life abroad).

    2. I'll try to find the other choice, just in case it's possible.
    "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky

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    In your experience, Chirine, was there any interaction with demons of Stability? There's an entire book on the demons of Change, but are the ones allied to Stability just boring, or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Opal View Post
    In your experience, Chirine, was there any interaction with demons of Stability? There's an entire book on the demons of Change, but are the ones allied to Stability just boring, or what?
    I was also wondering about the 39 Circles ruled by the minions of Stability...Reading The Book of Ebon Bindings really gives one the sense that we are truly like dri-flies!!! Would you have any knowledge of any of these demons of Stability(greater and lesser)? Thank you.

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    PS My good Baron, if you haven't read The Book of Ebon Bindings(I have a feeling you have)please do so. It is mind-blowing in scope and detail!!! Enjoy

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    Oh, yes. It is one of the few gaming books that I have that could be home on my antiquarian shelf rather than the gaming shelf. It's just that pretty.

    ("Shelf" being a vague geographical term in this instance, you understand.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Opal View Post
    Oh, yes. It is one of the few gaming books that I have that could be home on my antiquarian shelf rather than the gaming shelf. It's just that pretty.

    ("Shelf" being a vague geographical term in this instance, you understand.)
    I must admit; I have a(censored)"reading" copy and another pristine copy locked away(to keep the dabblers and world safe)in my horde as well...!!! Kranuontio Mishatlnea Uroshanal is not to be taken lightly, dangerous stuff...

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    Well, let me take a short run at this for you gents...

    There are indeed lots and lots of 'demons' that are allied / aligned with the worshippers of Stability, and I've run into / dealt with more then a few. For a list of the most common / useful ones, I'd suggest S&G II, which has long list of them as part of the 'demon summoning' spell. It's in the Temple level spells, as I recall. "Mitlanyal" might have more - again, I'd have to look.

    (I've done models of most of them; yes, I'm an obsessive-compulsive that way...)

    The emphasis in the published texts on the Change side of the house is due mostly to the fact that we had no Stability people in Phil's campaigns until the very late 1980s. Everybody, with one exception, played Change, and usually Vimulha or Ksarul. So, we had a pretty strong 'bias' to the sample.

    In addition, when we founded the original TNG we had a very strong aversion to the kind of 'power gaming' that the old group liked; one of those players had a habit of summoning demons to do the work at the drop of a hat, and we got kinda tired of it - we were there to play, not to watch some NPC from another plane have all the fun. Summoning demons got to be a crutch in the game play, not A Big Event / SNS, and we (and Phil himself, to be fair) got kind of tired of it.

    I do not remember a single incident of a 'demon' being summoned by the group from 1977 to 1987; it wasn't until we got a Stability player in the group that this occurred, and even then it was a pretty minor and low-powered way to get some information. (I did have fun making the golden dragonflies, though.)

    So, my play experience didn't feature demons, except as a Very Big Deal / Maximum SNS; I didn't summon any, nor did the other players; we were off exploring the world, almost all the time, and didn't get involved with this kind of thing except in very exceptional circumstances. We were, in many people's opinions, considered pretty lame as players as we didn't play the PvP and power politics around the game table that a lot of gamers seemed to - and still seem to - like.

    So, all I can do is direct you to the published sources; it's all I had, myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Well, let me take a short run at this for you gents...

    There are indeed lots and lots of 'demons' that are allied / aligned with the worshippers of Stability, and I've run into / dealt with more then a few. For a list of the most common / useful ones, I'd suggest S&G II, which has long list of them as part of the 'demon summoning' spell. It's in the Temple level spells, as I recall. "Mitlanyal" might have more - again, I'd have to look.

    (I've done models of most of them; yes, I'm an obsessive-compulsive that way...)

    The emphasis in the published texts on the Change side of the house is due mostly to the fact that we had no Stability people in Phil's campaigns until the very late 1980s. Everybody, with one exception, played Change, and usually Vimulha or Ksarul. So, we had a pretty strong 'bias' to the sample.

    In addition, when we founded the original TNG we had a very strong aversion to the kind of 'power gaming' that the old group liked; one of those players had a habit of summoning demons to do the work at the drop of a hat, and we got kinda tired of it - we were there to play, not to watch some NPC from another plane have all the fun. Summoning demons got to be a crutch in the game play, not A Big Event / SNS, and we (and Phil himself, to be fair) got kind of tired of it.

    I do not remember a single incident of a 'demon' being summoned by the group from 1977 to 1987; it wasn't until we got a Stability player in the group that this occurred, and even then it was a pretty minor and low-powered way to get some information. (I did have fun making the golden dragonflies, though.)

    So, my play experience didn't feature demons, except as a Very Big Deal / Maximum SNS; I didn't summon any, nor did the other players; we were off exploring the world, almost all the time, and didn't get involved with this kind of thing except in very exceptional circumstances. We were, in many people's opinions, considered pretty lame as players as we didn't play the PvP and power politics around the game table that a lot of gamers seemed to - and still seem to - like.

    So, all I can do is direct you to the published sources; it's all I had, myself...
    Lord, since you have let the tiuni out of the bag...could you show us some of your handy work...a few of your favorites models...a glimpse would be fantastic!!!

    I will check the reference material sited. Thank you much.

    H:0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    There are indeed lots and lots of 'demons' that are allied / aligned with the worshippers of Stability, and I've run into / dealt with more then a few. For a list of the most common / useful ones, I'd suggest S&G II, which has long list of them as part of the 'demon summoning' spell. It's in the Temple level spells, as I recall. "Mitlanyal" might have more - again, I'd have to look.
    Ah, drat. While I do have a Mitlanyal I do not have S&G II. While there is an amazing amount of information in Mitlanyal, the demonology is lacking.

    There must be a Ksarul priest somewhere I can knife, err... I mean barter with to get a copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Opal View Post
    Ah, drat. While I do have a Mitlanyal I do not have S&G II. While there is an amazing amount of information in Mitlanyal, the demonology is lacking.

    There must be a Ksarul priest somewhere I can knife, err... I mean barter with to get a copy.
    Ouch!!! If you have Bethorm, spell #74.Demonology(pg102)is the same. It seems that the demons listed are the same as those in S&GII. As for the Demon Princes of Stability that rule the 39 Circles, I will do some more looking. If Mitlanyal has none, then I guess we are out of luck... :0(

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