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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Understood - stick with paper, or you get a house like mine...

    No. I know my limitations, and playing Phil would have been just plain dumb. He really was that good. Never thought about the professional angle; I think he knew what the odds are like in the casinos...
    No, Uncle, I'm afraid that even if I don't stick with paper, I still couldn't afford a house like yours. So I'm avoiding getting stuff I couldn't keep.

    So, Phil was good enough to play as a pro, but would avoid casinos? I think my portrayals of them might be even more accurate than I expected.

    Which brings us to the games of hazard, and I want to ask you, would there be casino-like structures in Tekumel, apart from the Hirilakte arena? I would expect backroom games of chance, wondering cheaters professional players, betting on the equivalent of cock fights and dog fights, betting on races and (non-Hirilakte) Kushti matches, but is there anything I'm missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    No, Uncle, I'm afraid that even if I don't stick with paper, I still couldn't afford a house like yours. So I'm avoiding getting stuff I couldn't keep.

    So, Phil was good enough to play as a pro, but would avoid casinos? I think my portrayals of them might be even more accurate than I expected.

    Which brings us to the games of hazard, and I want to ask you, would there be casino-like structures in Tekumel, apart from the Hirilakte arena? I would expect backroom games of chance, wondering cheaters professional players, betting on the equivalent of cock fights and dog fights, betting on races and (non-Hirilakte) Kushti matches, but is there anything I'm missing?
    Understood - makes sense to me!

    Phil knew the odds very well; the house is always going to make more then the player will, no matter how good the player. They enforce their rules quite efficiently, and will simply ban really successful players.

    There aren't 'casinos', in any kind of formal sense, but you do get lower-status clans who specialize in gambling; and there are 'professionals', who are usually pretty honest players. Normally, the gambling is social, and take place in the middle- and upper-status clan-houses, with the host / hostess providing the professionals as a sort of party entertainment for the bored and jaded 'upper crust'. Betting occurs on everything, and is considered a 'noble hobby'.

    Now, having said that, you do get 'gambling dens', run by those lower-status clans, and these are usually in or near the Foreigners' Quarters of a city, and normally cater to foreigners and other low-status persons - the kind who don't get invited to the better class of parties. These places are in their clan-houses, and are not the kind of place one would visit unless one had their guards along. And brought their own dice, too...

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    Hey, look, it's the trainer for Sapphire Kirtle!

    http://www.thenewsminute.com/article...ttu-dame-38620
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Hey, look, it's the trainer for Sapphire Kirtle!

    http://www.thenewsminute.com/article...ttu-dame-38620
    That's a cool article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Hey, look, it's the trainer for Sapphire Kirtle!

    http://www.thenewsminute.com/article...ttu-dame-38620
    I hope you realize there, Glorious General, that by posting that link and exposing people to this kind of thing you're going to cause some heads to explode in anguish.

    How many times, over the years, did we have to sit there and listen to people griping about how stupid Tekumel was, "because stuff like that isn't realistic" and so on and so on, and so on?

    People like dear old Granny Meenakshi are out there in the world, and provided Phil with a lot of 'local color' in his Tekumel. How many times did we run into rural villages and meet up with people like this dear old lady and her family - and got our asses kicked all the way back to Bey Sy, if we didn't be polite and respectful?

    Great find, of course - I like the look on her sparring partner's face, and the vast array of weapons on the wall behind them - reminds you of Phil's living room, don't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren View Post
    That's a cool article.
    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    I hope you realize there, Glorious General, that by posting that link and exposing people to this kind of thing you're going to cause some heads to explode in anguish.

    How many times, over the years, did we have to sit there and listen to people griping about how stupid Tekumel was, "because stuff like that isn't realistic" and so on and so on, and so on?
    Well, we should publicize that link, then! Let those head explode!
    Although, given the lack of content, it looks more likely for them to implode under athmospheric pressure, so I'd say that's natural reasons.

    People like dear old Granny Meenakshi are out there in the world, and provided Phil with a lot of 'local color' in his Tekumel. How many times did we run into rural villages and meet up with people like this dear old lady and her family - and got our asses kicked all the way back to Bey Sy, if we didn't be polite and respectful?
    There's enough people like that in most campaigns.

    Great find, of course - I like the look on her sparring partner's face, and the vast array of weapons on the wall behind them - reminds you of Phil's living room, don't it?
    The wall reminds me of the wall in our training gym.

    But that's interesting, what look was there on Phil's sparring partners' faces?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    I hope you realize there, Glorious General, that by posting that link and exposing people to this kind of thing you're going to cause some heads to explode in anguish.

    How many times, over the years, did we have to sit there and listen to people griping about how stupid Tekumel was, "because stuff like that isn't realistic" and so on and so on, and so on?

    People like dear old Granny Meenakshi are out there in the world, and provided Phil with a lot of 'local color' in his Tekumel. How many times did we run into rural villages and meet up with people like this dear old lady and her family - and got our asses kicked all the way back to Bey Sy, if we didn't be polite and respectful?

    Great find, of course - I like the look on her sparring partner's face, and the vast array of weapons on the wall behind them - reminds you of Phil's living room, don't it?
    Lovely, top to bottom, isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Lovely, top to bottom, isn't it.

    By the way, all, as a spiritual discipline I'm giving up the Internet for Lent, partially for discipline and partially to catch up on my theological reading. See you all after Easter. Have fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Lovely, top to bottom, isn't it.

    By the way, all, as a spiritual discipline I'm giving up the Internet for Lent, partially for discipline and partially to catch up on my theological reading. See you all after Easter. Have fun!
    I can only envy your self-discipline, and wish you good luck in your studies!
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