Too 'handwavy'. Too 'loosy-goosy'. Needs more rules to be an accurate simulation of reality. Not realistic. Etc., Etc., Etc.Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya
Too 'handwavy'. Too 'loosy-goosy'. Needs more rules to be an accurate simulation of reality. Not realistic. Etc., Etc., Etc.
But that was Piccard; I always figured Jean-Luc was descended from the mathematician. It does make sense that someone would add a fourth light over the centuries; people just have to mess with stuff (including the spelling of family names), but especially so when it's something they don't understand.Yep; and Phil was doing his writing when the good Captain's ancestor was taking a little trip in his bathyscape - little bit o' trivia there...
Agreed about the spelling; Gene Roddenberry said he'd gotten it wrong in an interview we did with him at a convention, as part of the first season of ST:TNG marketing, and that the Captain was descended from the scientist - I think this had a lot to do with Gene's career in aviation; he may not have known about the mathematician. I think it's a very cool idea!!!
My respect for Phil Barker just went up yet another notch.All of the above, plus some. Really important documents are engraved on metal plates, parchment is used, and paper very common. You'll also see stacks of wood, leaves, and every imaginable material put together and written on. There is no use of moveable type, however. Block printing is used for cheap and nasty things for which a huge number are needed, because the scribes turn up their noses at these as being unworthy of their time.
One of the very coolest and most wonderful moments of my life came when we were up in the 'attic' - Phil's third floor home office. He had a huge - over 8,000 item - personal library, and he was showing some of us around. He told me to hold out my hands, palms up, and he put a small - about the size of the usual paperback - book in them. The cover was ornately carven, and he then opened the book very carefully and began to turn the pages.
I had everything I could do to not drop the book. The pages were covered with deep black in calligraphy in Urdu; it was a copy of the Qu'uran, written in the ink of squids on pages not of paper, but of paper-thin ivory. About 700 years old, Phil said. He also had examples of everything you mentioned, as well as Japanese 'accordian books', Chinese bamboo books, Persian miniature paintings, and Tibetan leaf books.
So, yes, you get everything...
Oh, dear... You take care, and all out very best!!!Thank you, the immediate problem was taken care of. We should learn only tomorrow what has actually happened, though.
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
Treasures indeed!!! An extraordinary man, who led an extaordinary life!!! I can see why you value the time you spent with him so(an education unto itself). Thank you once again for sharing. What could be better...? Armor, swords, and books...!!! ExcellentAll of the above, plus some. Really important documents are engraved on metal plates, parchment is used, and paper very common. You'll also see stacks of wood, leaves, and every imaginable material put together and written on. There is no use of moveable type, however. Block printing is used for cheap and nasty things for which a huge number are needed, because the scribes turn up their noses at these as being unworthy of their time.
One of the very coolest and most wonderful moments of my life came when we were up in the 'attic' - Phil's third floor home office. He had a huge - over 8,000 item - personal library, and he was showing some of us around. He told me to hold out my hands, palms up, and he put a small - about the size of the usual paperback - book in them. The cover was ornately carven, and he then opened the book very carefully and began to turn the pages.
I had everything I could do to not drop the book. The pages were covered with deep black in calligraphy in Urdu; it was a copy of the Qu'uran, written in the ink of squids on pages not of paper, but of paper-thin ivory. About 700 years old, Phil said. He also had examples of everything you mentioned, as well as Japanese 'accordian books', Chinese bamboo books, Persian miniature paintings, and Tibetan leaf books.
So, yes, you get everything...
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That... third floor study of Phil's was amazing. I only got to go up there once or twice.
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Sorry Guys, I just realized that this is the most up to date version of The Humanspace RPG...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...PIRES%20II.pdf
Enjoy,
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Thanks!
"Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It's a very mean and nasty place, and I don't care how tough you are, it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward." - Rocky
Working for Phil was incredible; I got to know an entire civilization from his stories about South Asia. And the library! Oh, my! It was a really sad time. getting it all packed up and sold after he passed away. The Islamic collection, including the little ivory Qu'uran, had gone years before; it was bought by a Maylasian businessman to be the foundation of a university library, just like when Phil had helped establish the Ames Asian library at the University of Minnesota.
And thank you for the update; keep us posted, when you can, and all our best!!!
It was a truly amazing time. I made sure to document everything before it went out the door after he passed away, so that Phil the scholar and savant would not be forgotten. As a F/SF fan, it was truly astounding to be able to touch the foundations of the genre, as well as be part of the foundations of this hobby. My goal, when I first started out with Phil back in '76, was to document it all as best I could - nothing more, and nothing less. I've achieved that; it'll take me the rest of my life to index and catalog it all, but that's what I've always wanted to do. My book is part of that - telling you of a time and a place where we did amazing things with and for an amazing man...
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