Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal

Originally Posted by Bren

Why oaky tasting slaves and money are best must be another one of those illogical things.

The truly cultured are able to appreciate such nuances.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

(And yes, the group that wanted me to do a Braunstien for them insisted that I had to do it in their specific date and time, and no, they weren't paying me. Nor were they willing to help load and unload all the stuff, either. Sigh.)

Sweet Avanthe's tits, at least the Akbar & Jeff Traveling Tekumel Show sold a bit of product and got to hang around in the bar after with such characters as Butch Leeper!

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Gotcha; very informative, as I came into the 'mainstream' of gaming after all this happened. I'd been sitting in my basement, fooling around with dice and lead, and came up for air to find all this stuff.

There are days when I think I shoulda stayed in the cellar...

I know the feeling. I pretty much dropped out of gaming until the early 21st Century, and still wonder what the hell happened while I was napping.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

You are a constant source of illumination, as always. I'll have that reply to your e-mail for you this weekend - life has finally slowed down, hereabouts.

You're making sense on all fronts, here, and I'm really enjoying this thread as a result. Thank you!!!

Glad I might be helping. I'm trying to be a positive influence. (It's likely that I'm not always successful, though).

(And yes, the group that wanted me to do a Braunstien for them insisted that I had to do it in their specific date and time, and no, they weren't paying me. Nor were they willing to help load and unload all the stuff, either. Sigh.)

That just went to "beyond the pale". Ah well, they missed on a Braunstein.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Ditto. I may be playing a lot less games, these days, but they are a much more fun time...

Understood. I'm just baffled when people throw them at me.

Eh, you're mostly Simulationist, from what I can tell, but have healthy doses of influence from the other styles as well.
Really, it doesn't matter. The most help I have got out of the whole theory was in screening players that wouldn't enjoy my style and picking the right game for whatever I'm planning.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Right. Don't be like Peter Venckman in Ghostbusters, where he walks into the hotel and says "Hey, anybody see a ghost?"

You would visit the marketplaces, and you would find a "dealer in antiquities." You would compliment his/her merchandise, the selection, the seller's obvious good taste, etc. After a few minutes the conversation would "just happen" to get to the point where you mention that you might know someone who has found a few trinkets, or the seller would mention they're always eager to "admire other collections."

You get the idea. In this sort of bargaining, USA-style "Here's what I'm selling, what will you pay" forthrightness is not done. It's missing out on the fun; it's not playing the game.

And as Lord Downey said to Mister Teatime, "It...lacked elegance."

Just so you know, I'm going to read that to one of my players.
Not that she needs it so much, but I find reminders helpful.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

I know the feeling. I pretty much dropped out of gaming until the early 21st Century, and still wonder what the hell happened while I was napping.

Same as everywhere. People tried thinking about stuff they were doing. Some reached wrong conclusions, others reached the right ones...
You can guess which are which by trying one of their games with a decent GM and seeing whether you enjoy playing it.

Originally Posted by yosemitemike

I keep adding more. I am running four different campaigns now and people want me to add a fifth. It looks pretty cool and I wouldn't mind but I have no idea when I would even be able to fit it in.

Very, very cool - congrats!!!

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Right. Don't be like Peter Venckman in Ghostbusters, where he walks into the hotel and says "Hey, anybody see a ghost?"

You would visit the marketplaces, and you would find a "dealer in antiquities." You would compliment his/her merchandise, the selection, the seller's obvious good taste, etc. After a few minutes the conversation would "just happen" to get to the point where you mention that you might know someone who has found a few trinkets, or the seller would mention they're always eager to "admire other collections."

You get the idea. In this sort of bargaining, USA-style "Here's what I'm selling, what will you pay" forthrightness is not done. It's missing out on the fun; it's not playing the game.

And as Lord Downey said to Mister Teatime, "It...lacked elegance."

Very true! 'Shopping trips' with Phil were some of our very best sessions...

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Sweet Avanthe's tits, at least the Akbar & Jeff Traveling Tekumel Show sold a bit of product and got to hang around in the bar after with such characters as Butch Leeper!

Yep, at least back then we had some fun after the heavy lifting.

I ran my last big Braunstein at FFG's original Event Center back in 2013, and it was a nightmare. I wanted to load Friday for a Saturday game, and then unload Sunday - this was the 'big table' game with all the swamps and Hlutrgu, and is on my YouTube channel. A friend from Milwaukee came for the fun, and he was the one who helped me load out and load in, as helped with everything at FFG. The downside was that he's had triple bypass surgery; I have this hole in the back of my head. And, it was just the two of us doing all the heavy lifting. Eldest Daughter came over and helped by holding the door - it was all she could do, as she was having to heft the new First Grandson on her hip the whole time. (The baby was more help then a lot of people; he thinks I'm funnier then all hell, and laughs his little head off any time I have into view. That's worth it.)

I would up exhausted, and managed to run the game despite being totally wiped out. And, of course, all of the able-bodied people, who'd offered to help out, just weren't there for the effort.

Haven't run such a game since, which is too bad; the new FFG Event Center is just perfect for games like the ones I run - and they have a very nice cafe on-site, too. They invited me to run games there any time, like for the Dave Arneson Memorial Games I used to do, but I don't think I'd get any help.

Sigh. So it goes, I guess.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

I know the feeling. I pretty much dropped out of gaming until the early 21st Century, and still wonder what the hell happened while I was napping.

Yep. I'm still sitting here with my mouth hanging open at some of the goings-on.

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Glad I might be helping. I'm trying to be a positive influence. (It's likely that I'm not always successful, though).

That just went to "beyond the pale". Ah well, they missed on a Braunstein.

Eh, you're mostly Simulationist, from what I can tell, but have healthy doses of influence from the other styles as well..

Well, it does help me, and it's very kind of you to take the time to explain things to this ancient duffer.

See my comment to Gronan. While yes, I do own a nice little cargo van with 64 cubic feet worth of internal space, the big issue is hauling stuff in and out of the house and the venue. (Although space can get tight; I had to put my suit of armor in the passenger seat to get it down to gary Con this past March, which got me a lot of strange looks from passer-by.) It's moving the miniatures - they are fragile, heavy, and take up lots of space. The scenery and terrain, not so much; all that stuff lives out in the garden shed, in plastic tubs, and it very easy and fast to load and unload. (Carts are your friends.) People don't realize the amount of sheer hard work and time that big games entail, I think, and so I don't get any help 'cause everybody's busy.

Hmmm. I think you're right.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Yep, at least back then we had some fun after the heavy lifting.

I ran my last big Braunstein at FFG's original Event Center back in 2013, and it was a nightmare. I wanted to load Friday for a Saturday game, and then unload Sunday - this was the 'big table' game with all the swamps and Hlutrgu, and is on my YouTube channel. A friend from Milwaukee came for the fun, and he was the one who helped me load out and load in, as helped with everything at FFG. The downside was that he's had triple bypass surgery; I have this hole in the back of my head. And, it was just the two of us doing all the heavy lifting. Eldest Daughter came over and helped by holding the door - it was all she could do, as she was having to heft the new First Grandson on her hip the whole time. (The baby was more help then a lot of people; he thinks I'm funnier then all hell, and laughs his little head off any time I have into view. That's worth it.)

I would up exhausted, and managed to run the game despite being totally wiped out. And, of course, all of the able-bodied people, who'd offered to help out, just weren't there for the effort.

Haven't run such a game since, which is too bad; the new FFG Event Center is just perfect for games like the ones I run - and they have a very nice cafe on-site, too. They invited me to run games there any time, like for the Dave Arneson Memorial Games I used to do, but I don't think I'd get any help.

Sigh. So it goes, I guess.

In your case, "I must have a hole in my head" is more literally true than for most of us...

(damn, I'm a smartass)

Also... what's FFG?