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    Quote Originally Posted by Premier View Post
    "Cooking" is a dangerously vague word and is close to heresy. It could potentially include steaming or boiling the fish, or making fish soup!

    For a follower of Lord Vimuhla, the only accceptable way to prepare a fish is to roast it over an open fire!
    Grilling. It's the only way. Once the Sacred Spices have been applied to purify the sacrifice, of course. A little drawn butter also pleases the Lord of Flame, too.

    Lord Vimuhla is very understanding though. If you are stuck on the damn boat with Harchar for six months, all is forgiven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bren View Post
    Grilling is also acceptable. Frying is still under disputation.

    All this is just as far as I am concerned. I've almost but never quite run EPT, so take my opinion for what it is worth, which is about 1 Kaitar.
    Frying?!? Nope; grilling over an open fire. Can't get any better then that, especially when the officiant at the sacrifice perfumes the nostrils of the God with aromatic woods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    If it was detailed enough that you're sure there weren't holes like that, I agree. That's bullshit.
    Of course, we then get to chirine's comment "should have got it in the playtesting stage". Which I agree totally with.


    I find the real-world research improves my games as well. Funny fact, it manages to improve them even when I'm researching trivia while running deliberately over-the-top games.
    (I don't know whether you're familiar with Exalted or Feng Shui 2, but imagine a game where your PCs stats were the default for a starting character, and you have FS2. It's a game emulating Hong Kong action movies, after all. Somehow, I manage to get knowledge of how sucker punching happens into it, and it's to the benefit of the game).
    Still, unless you rely on all the Referees being "generalists", it's better if the game designers do the heavy lifting. As an example, I'd give you Artesia and Legends of the Wulin. Nobody reminds you to do ritual purification before entering the temple, when playing Artesia. You just get a penalty to your communion rolls, which keep you centered and balanced among other stuff. Nobody reminds you to consult a predictionist with bad reputation in Legend of the Wulin before engaging a major enemy, either. You just want to stick a penalty on your likely enemies!

    Lots of typing ahead.
    Courtrai is one of the exceptions that proves the concept. I specifically put this kind of thing into my rules, along with caltrops, stakes, and other such devices. Very helpful, assuming that you have time to deploy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    1, 2 and 3, got that. I need some more materials, or making it up myself.
    I get the feeling that the latter would be in line with what the Professor would have expected from any Referee.
    Also, religions and sects have started over more stupid things than liking fish, so I find that surprisingly fitting (though I doubt I'd agree with your logic, the goal of any religion being to emulate the god or goddess' essence).

    4.-7. Glad I've got that right. Seems like my mental pattern for Tsoyliani society is at least partially right.
    Agreed. Make something up; Phil did it all the time, like when Eyloa the Wizard got turned into a talking blue fish by Lord Fu Hsi. Imagine me having to carry his little piscene grumpiness around in a custom glass bowl for several month's worth of adventures; he looked like those grump beta fish you can find at all pet stores, the ones with the long flowing fins. Since they are air breathers, Elyoa - being a player character - kept trying to cast spells, with predictable results. He also wouldn't shut up, and finally got to be a sort of minor god, The Talking Blue Fish, and had a temple / shrine dedicated to him in Khirgar. There's even a gate with his image in tile.

    I had my revenge, though. I had a glass blower make him a little temple for his bowl...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Yep; I've had much the same experience; what baffles me is the reaction to the discovery that some of us old farts are still alive and still gaming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    1. I can only say you put much more effort than me in props.

    2. Agreed.

    3. That's interesting. Too bad you don't have tips on how it can be learned.
    Also, you'd suck as a criminal, one fingerprint and that's it!
    That's a compliment, in case anyone is wondering.

    4. I wasn't there, no idea how it was intended. Me, I think that the ability of some of us to derive pleasure from or despite of the suffering of characters is what makes grimdark fun.

    5. Too bad. How often can you say you've eaten your wife and not have it sound gross?

    6. It reminds me of some contemporary gaming companies for some reason...

    7. Well, I've had experience only with people that think being able to speak a made-up language made them somehow better...so it's on them that I find the idea amusing.
    It doesn't help that their attempt to explain how much better people can be for speaking languages of a nameless property (NOT Tekumel) crashed hard when we discovered that I speak more real world languages than the made-up and real-world tongues mastered by the guy promoting the idea...
    So yeah, chalk it up to stupid fans. Besides, if I want to use another language, I'd just learn spoken Chinese or German, and put it to use as a Tekumeli tongue. I've done that with French, when I knew nobody but me in the group speaks French.

    8. Well, I'm not a Star Trek fan, so can't comment. I just quoted almost verbatim the reply of one of my players.

    9. I promise to be amused, as long as you promise to not stop trying!
    1. I'm a model builder; what can I say? I love props, just like Phil did, and I've been accumulating them for some forty years; I have a basement full of this kind of thing.

    Agreed with the rest of your points, too; very trenchant observations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Geezer View Post
    Followers of Karakan know that the proper way to cook fish is to hang it on the lightning attractors and let the God decide how it should be cooked.

    Rumors that Chirine and his pals used to lounge about atop the temple of Vimuhla and place bets on which sacrifice to Karakan would get zotzed by the God next are entirely true.
    Well, yes, especially during the dry season. We did consider it very unsporting and quite gauche to ask the Temple of Avanthe to conjure up a little thunderstorm right over the Temple of Karakan, just to get their hopes up...

    The running joke over at our temple was that you could die of old age, if you were waiting to be sacrificed to Lord Karakan; it seemed to be a pretty cushy job, just lying there on the altar for months and getting fed three times a day and trying not to get bored...

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    Fantastic thread. Thanks Chirine, Old Geezer, and all those asking questions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Grilling. It's the only way. Once the Sacred Spices have been applied to purify the sacrifice, of course. A little drawn butter also pleases the Lord of Flame, too.

    Lord Vimuhla is very understanding though. If you are stuck on the damn boat with Harchar for six months, all is forgiven.
    Lord Vimuhla, master of the Flame, is forgiving?
    I can associate many qualities with Flame and Change. Charm, Style, Aggressivity, Sexuality, Unfetteredness...but not Forgiveness.
    (If that's canonical, either I'd need it explained, or My Tekumel Is Going To Differ. As do all of my settings, anyway).

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    We're working on it.

    I genuinely don't know if my play style is transferable or even teachable. I try as much as I can to explain how and why what I'm doing, which is why I have the blog, the You Tube, and the Photobucket outlets.

    As for the lights coming on, yes, I do get that on occasion. This past year's gary Con Tekumel RPG had that, from all of the players. Ask OG; he was there. It was one heck of a game - I had the fight of my life!
    You're referring to a kind of Frei Kriegspiel, right?
    I'd say it's transferable. You just need to have a Referee that's ready to adopt it and can do the heavy lifting.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Courtrai is one of the exceptions that proves the concept. I specifically put this kind of thing into my rules, along with caltrops, stakes, and other such devices. Very helpful, assuming that you have time to deploy them.
    Wait, now, you (and OG) were referring to Courtrai, 1302, right?
    Then I don't know how it's relevant, because troops there had pikes, and terrain advantage (all the stuff I was thinking of, except lassos and trenches, in fact). And you said this makes them heavier troops, so it's no longer relevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Agreed. Make something up; Phil did it all the time, like when Eyloa the Wizard got turned into a talking blue fish by Lord Fu Hsi. Imagine me having to carry his little piscene grumpiness around in a custom glass bowl for several month's worth of adventures; he looked like those grump beta fish you can find at all pet stores, the ones with the long flowing fins. Since they are air breathers, Elyoa - being a player character - kept trying to cast spells, with predictable results. He also wouldn't shut up, and finally got to be a sort of minor god, The Talking Blue Fish, and had a temple / shrine dedicated to him in Khirgar. There's even a gate with his image in tile.

    I had my revenge, though. I had a glass blower make him a little temple for his bowl...
    What would be the results of trying to cast in a polymorphed form? Do they depend on gestures so much, or can it be circumvented with sufficient concentration?
    And I think the glass blower part was to be expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    1. I'm a model builder; what can I say? I love props, just like Phil did, and I've been accumulating them for some forty years; I have a basement full of this kind of thing.

    Agreed with the rest of your points, too; very trenchant observations!
    Yeah, I get the love for props.
    I just don't have the physical space to store them. What can I say?

    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    Well, yes, especially during the dry season. We did consider it very unsporting and quite gauche to ask the Temple of Avanthe to conjure up a little thunderstorm right over the Temple of Karakan, just to get their hopes up...

    The running joke over at our temple was that you could die of old age, if you were waiting to be sacrificed to Lord Karakan; it seemed to be a pretty cushy job, just lying there on the altar for months and getting fed three times a day and trying not to get bored...
    Ok, now I'm totally putting a god in some setting where the temple has waiting lists for people willing to be sacrificed!

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Shadow View Post
    Fantastic thread. Thanks Chirine, Old Geezer, and all those asking questions!
    You should ask questions, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsenRG View Post
    Lord Vimuhla, master of the Flame, is forgiving?
    I can associate many qualities with Flame and Change. Charm, Style, Aggressivity, Sexuality, Unfetteredness...but not Forgiveness.
    (If that's canonical, either I'd need it explained, or My Tekumel Is Going To Differ. As do all of my settings, anyway).
    In my experience, Lord Vimuhla has always been pretty reasonable - but then, I am also one of those people who believes that the gods help those who help themselves. I was always a 'man of my hands', to use the Scots phrase, and lord Vimuhla always seemed to appreciate that; he/she/it tended to be a lot more lenient when it came to formal observances and such.

    Basically, I used to roll very, very high for Phil when the question came up.

    And I could always be counted on for very high casualties amongst the enemy, when we got into fights, something which always went over very well with the Lord of Flame.

    (As an amusing aside, I was once getting some hassle at Gen Con from some D&D guys for being an 'Evil High Priest' under the rules. Gary Gygax, who had been listening to the discussion, pointed out that in his Greyhawk, I would be considered a paladin as I was a faithful follower of my deity and a pillar of my Temple - 'Lawful Evil', if you would - and that kind of stopped them cold.)

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