Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal - part II

Originally Posted by GameDaddy

Year before last, I met one of the Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandsons of Oliver Cromwell. His last name was Cromwell as well, and he was American, and knew he was Oliver Cromwell's Grandson. His family had emigrated from the UK shortly after the American Revolution. Spending several hours talking with him was extremely enlightening, more so than reading several books on the English Civil War, because I got a feel for Oliver Cromwell's personality and leadership style. He really was a people person motivated to help the English Commoners keep their hard earned freedoms. His Great Grandson, ...as a teenager, was Independent, Fearless, Reckless, Impetuous, and Headstrong. He was very anti-authoritarian. Traits I'm certain he shared with His Great Grandfather.

Yep; see also Antonia Frasier's bio of the Lord Protector.

Originally Posted by Baron

I once dated an Irish girl in NYC. We went to an Irish bar one night where, after a few drinks, she started telling everyone that I was a descendant of Oliver Cromwell. (I'm not, of course, and although I have some Irish and English ancestry, it sure doesn't show). I got quite a few glares before I got her out of there, but she thought it was hysterical.

Girls like that you don't need, thank you.

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

If you can't save them for later, you try to burn them if you're on land and bury them at sea if you're not. I used to say a few words over the remains, and commend them to Lord Vimuhla; then, I'd do one of my more spectacular spells and vaporize the dearly departed. Anything left was then disposed of, but I usually didn't leave much left. Favorite personal stuff, like weapons, would be placed with the late lamented, and they'd often get vaporized or melted as well. If we had the time and means, I'd bring the ashes back to the deceased's clan, and they'd usually put him or her in the family / clan necropolis. If the person didn't have anything to their name, I'd provide them with a dagger and some coins for the afterlife; I'm a Priest of the Flame, after all, and this is what we do. No food for the worms or the fishes, if they had been someone we liked and respected.

So, yes, it did come up in Phil's campaigns, usually with us doing the killing and me doing the proper rituals.

Yes. The Affair of the Malchiran Emerald was the most notable, but we did see these every now and then. Highly dangerous to loot anywhere near the Vriddi / Ebbrida, or most Vimuhla people.

Thanks Chirine!
I see. So just to clarify if, for example, you were adventuring some place where there were absolutely no flammable materials (branches, scrub, sticks, grass, etc) and your magic was depleted or somehow suppressed would it be sufficient to, say, pour oil on the deceased and light it as a gesture of faith even if the remains were not completely consumed by the fire? Would this satisfy the dogmatic/theological requirements? Is any fire better than no fire?

Shemek

One more question.
With which temple(s), other than Chiteng's, does Vimuhla's clergy have a good/close working relationship/alliance? I know that politically they have many of the same goals as Karakan's Temple does, but are there any others that they closely work with (perhaps secretly)?

Shemek

Originally Posted by chirine ba kal

Girls like that you don't need, thank you.

Now that's word of wisdom, Uncle!

Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel

Thanks Chirine!
I see. So just to clarify if, for example, you were adventuring some place where there were absolutely no flammable materials (branches, scrub, sticks, grass, etc) and your magic was depleted or somehow suppressed would it be sufficient to, say, pour oil on the deceased and light it as a gesture of faith even if the remains were not completely consumed by the fire? Would this satisfy the dogmatic/theological requirements? Is any fire better than no fire?

Shemek

Through your tone, I can sense the concern of the players, Lord Shemek!

And if I may ask, Uncle and Glorious General, how likely are priests of Karakan and Vimuhla to have a "honoured rivals" relationship, as "fellow warriors who have the wrong views on stability and change"?

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Through your tone, I can sense the concern of the players, Lord Shemek!

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Originally Posted by AsenRG

And if I may ask, Uncle and Glorious General, how likely are priests of Karakan and Vimuhla to have a "honoured rivals" relationship, as "fellow warriors who have the wrong views on stability and change"?

In the larger more urban areas especially, I think it would be quite common.

Chirine and I were always way too busy trying to keep 6,000 eager young lads (and, incidentally, ourselves) alive to have much space for even a friendly rivalry. Rude strangers attempting to perforate your hide focuses the mind wonderfully.

Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel

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Well, yeah, it was meant in that spirit!

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

In the larger more urban areas especially, I think it would be quite common.

Chirine and I were always way too busy trying to keep 6,000 eager young lads (and, incidentally, ourselves) alive to have much space for even a friendly rivalry. Rude strangers attempting to perforate your hide focuses the mind wonderfully.

Thank you, Glorious General, I was actually thinking of just such an area.

I can see why you didn't have it, but then you also had your Imperialism in common, and I was talking about a situation where they wouldn't have such common ground.

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Well, yeah, it was meant in that spirit! .

That's kind of what I thought my friend.

Shemek.