Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal - part II

From AsenRG:
I'm glad to contribute to spreading the love for this game!

It looks good - lots of flavor and not heavy on the mechanics. I'll see what I can do with it.

Uncle, which are the lines you find offensive? Please, PM me with the names - just mentioning them in a thread as popular as yours would actually help them (improving the odds of finding them with search engines).

Understood. PM on the way. For a line that I really like, there's the 'Sensibly Dressed Ladies' from Anne The Dicebag Lady in the UK:http://badsquiddogames.com/

I don't even think it's about Europe - it's about your daughters being normal people and not stuck-up self-righteous prudes. Please note that "righteous" and "self-righteous" are different words.

They'd draw the line at 'normal', maybe! I think they'd agree with your assesment, though.

It baffles me as well. That's why I've decided, lately, to support only game lines that are found offensive, or at least have the potential.
(Of course, I was already doing that).

Understood. I think there's a line between what I'd consider unoffensive and which have been the foundations of this hobby, like the Frazetta artwork, and stuff with is simply tacky and crude - see also the PM.

Same here, and I like peace and quiet!

Yep - excitement, of a certain sort, gets old after a while...

Originally Posted by AsenRG

Uncle, which are the lines you find offensive? Please, PM me with the names - just mentioning them in a thread as popular as yours would actually help them (improving the odds of finding them with search engines).

PM sent.

Official fair warning notice! An Eeeeevil Plot looms!

Over on the AoI Q&A thread, I've had the notion that it might be funny to ship Gronan in for the Free RPG Day. The cost is not all that bed - cheaper then my going to a convention - and the resulting laughs would be right up there with some of our best moments in gaming. People say the the two of us riffing off each other is truly something to see, and it might be fun to salt the table with a few ringers. We shall see...

Originally Posted by altfritz

I don't think anybody has mentioned "Barbarians of Lemuria". Haven't seen the latest version yet but the original is a great game with some very nice mechanics. Don't know why you couldn't use it for an Egyptian setting. Unless you want the rules to do the research for you, of course. But if one is using a historical setting surely researching the setting is part of the plan anyway?

Oh, good thought! I'll have a look at this set.

I don't need much information on Ancient Egypt - Phil saw to that, giving me a pretty comprehensive education on the subject - but what I'm looking for is a nice simple set of rules for people; this is going to be an event aimed at complete novices.

Originally Posted by altfritz

I don't think anybody has mentioned "Barbarians of Lemuria". Haven't seen the latest version yet but the original is a great game with some very nice mechanics. Don't know why you couldn't use it for an Egyptian setting. Unless you want the rules to do the research for you, of course. But if one is using a historical setting surely researching the setting is part of the plan anyway?

In my case, it's because Zenobia Aegypt has a remarkable similar system to BoL anyway (except Zenobia is even simpler in most regards), and it is already geared towards a historical Egyptian setting. The same goes for the other two games I'd recommended, too.
OTOH, BoL, at least as written, is totally unsuitable for a Tekumel game where the fun is being part of the society, since even the XP system assumes wandering adventurers, just like OD&D's XP system assumes dungeoncrawling teams!

Originally Posted by Zirunel

I'm not from the U.S. myself, but I have a feeling some of those attitudes actually are American, and much less prevalent in Europe, or even in the rest of the Anglo world. Could be wrong about that, but the religious fundamentalist contingent seems to hold a sway there that they don't in most other western countries

The US was founded largely by Puritans who left England because they weren't allowed to be assholes to people who went to church and said different words from them.

That influence still runs deep.

I've occasionally wondered if the censorship brigade jumped to feminism because the Born Again Christians were too rational and tame for them. Even so, I'm convinced that it's really the same people it's always been and they're just flying a new flag for maximum coverage. Sadly, if you believe these things are cyclical, we're due for a swing in that direction.

Originally Posted by AsenRG

In my case, it's because Zenobia Aegypt has a remarkable similar system to BoL anyway (except Zenobia is even simpler in most regards), and it is already geared towards a historical Egyptian setting. The same goes for the other two games I'd recommended, too.
OTOH, BoL, at least as written, is totally unsuitable for a Tekumel game where the fun is being part of the society, since even the XP system assumes wandering adventurers, just like OD&D's XP system assumes dungeoncrawling teams!

I'll have a look! Thanks!