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    I'd forgotten Tom ran through a couple of characters like that. The irony about the first story is that at a typical Tsolyani party, if you have ANY social graces, any vestige of intelligence, or even average looks, it's about as much work to set up an amorous encounter as it is to get a beer out of my fridge.
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    Of course, let's not forget the differences between Tsolyani and late 20th century American culture. The old 50's beach movie routine of the guy pretending to yawn and putting his arm down around the girl's shoulders would be insulting to a young Tsolyani woman, as you are implying either she is too stupid to understand what you are doing, or to ignorant to discuss sex openly.

    Phil pretty much had no time for "coy." Knowing Umbreen I'm not surprised...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    I'd forgotten Tom ran through a couple of characters like that. The irony about the first story is that at a typical Tsolyani party, if you have ANY social graces, any vestige of intelligence, or even average looks, it's about as much work to set up an amorous encounter as it is to get a beer out of my fridge.
    Agreed. He just never really seemed to understand how the societies worked, of how to deal with the people we met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya View Post
    Of course, let's not forget the differences between Tsolyani and late 20th century American culture. The old 50's beach movie routine of the guy pretending to yawn and putting his arm down around the girl's shoulders would be insulting to a young Tsolyani woman, as you are implying either she is too stupid to understand what you are doing, or to ignorant to discuss sex openly.

    Phil pretty much had no time for "coy." Knowing Umbreen I'm not surprised...
    Oh, yes indeed. He never did learn how to ask politely, sad to say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    It's in the book, in Book Five. You may not have that part yet, so...

    Three million kaitars.

    At 3 grams each, that's nine million grams of gold; some tons worth, as you might guess. (About sixteen cubic feet of filthy lucre.) He'd dumped it ll into the Imperial treasury in Hekellu, issuing himself a writ for the money that he figured that he could cash back in the central empire and then took off. Phil was pretty cheesed off at him for bugging out, and took a moment out of the game play to politely remind Yours Truly that there was an entry on my 3x5 card saying that the Imperium owed me some money. Lord Takodai, the NPC Governor, took this opportunity to make good on the writ and pay off the Imperial debt. I located and hired a very secure vault, at very high speed.

    Decades later, I was watching "Rome" one of Phil's favorites, and there is a scene where one of the heroes discovers a wagon full of the treasury of the Temple of Saturn. I laughed all over again, as I knew Phil had...
    Yes you are right it is in the book. I had forgotten about it until you mentioned the secure vault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel View Post
    Yes you are right it is in the book. I had forgotten about it until you mentioned the secure vault.
    Good old Titus Pullo my all time favourite TV character. "Thirteenth! Thirteenth!"
    And some very good guardians, too...

    Phil really liked the series, and I think GMs would find it both illuminating and useful for ideas and plots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    M. A. R. Barker and David L. Arneson come instantly to mind. Phil was much more interested in his novels then in game products, which I can certainly understand, and Dave was convinced that the future of gaming was in black-powder period historical miniatures - which I could not then, and still cannot now. Neither felt that RPGs were all that big a deal, and so the investment of time, energy, effort, and money in the Tekumel product lines stayed at the effectively fan-produced level for years. Phil felt that once he'd done EPT for Dave and Gary, he'd done his bit; he never finished S&G because he lost interest in the project. The AGI line was a 'lunch-time project' and always took a back seat to the production of the AGI line. (See also DLA's regularly referring to us as "the Tekumel boat people".)
    Ah, I understand now, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    And some very good guardians, too...

    Phil really liked the series, and I think GMs would find it both illuminating and useful for ideas and plots.
    Sometimes it seems to me, people are so obsessed with stressing the "alien" "non-western" character of Tekumel (oh look, Mayans in space!) that they downplay the huge classical Hellenistic/Imperial-Roman Mediterranean elements in the Professor's grand pastiche. It's a mashup sure, with a lot of ingredients, but much of it really isn't as "non-western" as some people pretend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chirine ba kal View Post
    (...) Hence the name, "The Inexorable Cart of Chirine ba Kal".

    (And yes, I have it in miniature, complete with little box full of player-character and (balsa) wood-shavings.)

    Does this help explain things?
    Yes. That helps a lot. Brilliant fun. Thank you for the account.

    By the way, were you ever involved with "The Seal of the Imperium" journals? I think not, but I may be mistaken.
    I've been told that there's actually a fourth, unpublished issue out there, one that's almost ready to go. The manuscript is probably filed away in some box somewhere, never to see the light of day.

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