Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal - part II

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Chirine, have you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58eL...ature=youtu.be

Phil would plotz. For that matter, it's got me wanting to start saving my Khiatars.

Yes, I have. And yes, Phil would have loved it, and really had fun with it...

... which is why I think we're all so truly blessed and fortunate that the Tekumel Foundation killed the Tekumel room at Gary Con three years ago, as Stefan had already agreed to provide a complete set of his products for the games set in the Underworlds that we were going to run. My miniatures, his wonderful products, and I think it would have made for some really wonderful games that people would have enjoyed and that Gary and Phil would have been proud of to have at Gary's convention...

... but they would have been UNOFFICIAL, UNAUTHORIZED, and UNAPPROVED games that would have given people the wrong interpretation of Phil's world which - as we all have been told - can come only from the Tekumel Foundation. At which point, the long-time Tekumel fans who were going to run these games at he convention with me reconsidered the decision to spend all their money and time that they had offered to give to help tell people about Phil's creation, and they simply quit. So, no Tekumel room at Gary Con, but the Tekumel Foundation's interpretation of Tekumel is safe. Make sure you thank them, next time you see them, for their superb handling of the situation.

(My! Ain't he snarky, tonight?)

Originally Posted by Hrugga

Uncle a quick few questions in regard to coinage. How much more valuable are coins from the past than those minted new in the Empire? Is there an exchange rate? Would one hesitate to melt them down?

H:0)

Well, you could always sell them for their metal content, but they bring better prices from coin collectors. So, yes, one would hesitate to melt them.

Originally Posted by Hrugga

Are any of these old coins still excepted as payment, or valuable only to the collector?

Thanks,

H:0)

Only as metal weight. The only place that I know of where they will take the Engsvanyali Su'or as legal tender is in Mihallu.

Remember, Phil was an academic, and that atmosphere is truly toxic in many ways.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Remember, Phil was an academic, and that atmosphere is truly toxic in many ways.

Yeah, spot on, you go straight to the res. That's what my questions are dancing around.

I was an undergrad in the 70s and a grad student in the 80s. I lived that environment, I have my own stories, of no interest to anyone outside a rarified field (much like Tekumel!) and I can imagine how it might play out in any university department. Young kids jostling for position, older authority figure gratified and validated by being some kind of mentor, all that. Just trying to get a sense how it played out in that particular time and place.

Originally Posted by Zirunel

Cool, thanks. I have to admit, I haven't tried to identify the personalities, but by their works shall ye know them, and I guess their works included some good stuff, so as far as that goes, good for them.

Too bad about the toxic dynamic. It sounds like that wasn't the last time. Maybe not the first time, either.

It did, and it's why I was so disappointed when they declined to participate and kept up the feuding. And you're right, too. See Fine's book for the story.

Originally Posted by Gronan of Simmerya

Remember, Phil was an academic, and that atmosphere is truly toxic in many ways.

True. It makes the current situation just that much more comprehensible.

And I apologize for being so snarky earlier, too. The whole incident made me wonder - and still does, for that matter - if putting in forty years, unlimited energy, and substantial sums of money was at all worth it. Again, not your fault; sorry for being a cranky old man.