Thread: Questioning chirine ba kal - part II

Originally Posted by altfritz

Regarding clans, there has been and on-again-off-again discussion about developing a "Clan Formula" - for developing write-ups - on the Yahoogroup and Tekumel site forums:

http://www.tekumel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=396

Also, the Mu'ug "Clan of the Balanced Stone" which I stumbled across one day:

http://www.tekumel.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=440

We should start a new thread where people could post the clans they have designed. (On the Tekumel site forums, of course; in order to support Tekumel). Or perhaps each clan should get its own thread to avoid them being buried in a long thread.

Just a thought. This thread is great but not really focused on just clans. AND this site is not focused on Tekumel. ie. the Tekumel Forums would be better and they are under-utilized IMO.

Howard

Howard,

Unfortunately the Tekumel forums, to put it kindly, are as moribund as Lord Sarku's minions. Years between new threads and a few postings here and there is not what I would call a lively debate. There simply is no real exchange of ideas which makes it useless to me. I truly salute your effort to get that venue re-energised, but Tekumel.com is a shadow of what it used to be. Too bad really.
Also, in light of what Chirine, posted I wouldn't want to be on a platform that has banned him for no apparent reason. Foolish exclusionary practices, which seem to stem from personal insecurities, do not appeal to me in the slightest. That is not the type of environment I'm interested in at all.
I agree with Hrugga's assessment regarding this thread, and it completely mirrors my feelings towards it, and quite frankly this is the only reason that I am even active on this forum. Perhaps we could get something similar going on one of the other Tekumel Groups, but I have a bad feeling that the politics would quickly start to manifest and bugger things up. If, as you say, the bullshit could be kept out I would be totally onboard with a more Tekumel dedicated milieu.

Shemek

Originally Posted by Hrugga

Well it is safe to say that everyone here shows an interest in Tekumel. Questioning Chirine baKal has been fantastic. I like the people here. It is like a good fireside chat. Good fun. Great information and ideas. I am up to discuss anything. I post, if I can contribute. Otherwise, I read. I thank Chirine for his indulgence of our questions and whims of the moment.

With that being said, I do frequent other Tekumel related forums. I have come across some really great stuff. But sadly the posting is not consistant. Sometimes it is days, weeks, in some cases months before something new comes up. I think the open endedness of the thread here keeps it going. Maybe the other sites could do something similar?

H:0)

Mighty Hrugga,

In many ways this thread reminds me of the old Blue Room site. In fact I think that I'm not too far in saying that Questioning Chirine baKal is its successor.

Shemek.

How about I post it to the Tekumel Yahoo group? Is that neutral ground?

I find that exercises like this helps me get into the spirit of things as well as providing some internal consistency, should things come up during play.

Blaise

Originally Posted by Hrugga

Well it is safe to say that everyone here shows an interest in Tekumel. Questioning Chirine baKal has been fantastic. I like the people here. It is like a good fireside chat. Good fun. Great information and ideas. I am up to discuss anything. I post, if I can contribute. Otherwise, I read. I thank Chirine for his indulgence of our questions and whims of the moment.

With that being said, I do frequent other Tekumel related forums. I have come across some really great stuff. But sadly the posting is not consistant. Sometimes it is days, weeks, in some cases months before something new comes up. I think the open endedness of the thread here keeps it going. Maybe the other sites could do something similar?

H:0)

You're welcome! As I've said, this thread is for all of you, not just for me. It's being driven by your questions, and I'm happy to share what I know and learned from Phil over the years.

I agree with you about the other Tekumel forums (fora?). I have them set up to notify me if there's any traffic, like the recent set of messages on Mu'uglavyani red on the Yahoo group.

I don't know; you'd have to ask there.

Originally Posted by altfritz

Peter Gifford is the one that runs the site. Perhaps the Foundation owns the domain name, I don't know. It would be odd, I think, for a single director to be allowed to purchase the domain. It would go against the stated purpose of the Foundation.

In any case I think it is an open forum.

One of these days all the "baggage" (ie. bullshit) surrounding Tekumel, the Foundation, etc is going to get my back up and I'll just walk away.

You are correct; Peter founded the site, and is the webmaster. The domain name is owned personally by Mr. Alberti, and the site is hosted on his servers.

It is indeed an open forum, as I understand it, for everyone but myself. Although Bob does delete posts on the Tekumel Facebook page, I don't know what his criteria are for doing so.

Re the TF connection; Dr. Raymond told me that they want to, quote, "shut down all of the 'external' Tekumel forums and move all of the discussions over to their 'internal' forum so that they can control the conversations." I think that would be a mistake, myself, as well as like herding cats.

Agreed. It's been going on since the late 1980s, and it's just counter-productive for Tekumel in general.

Originally Posted by Shemek hiTankolel

Howard,

Unfortunately the Tekumel forums, to put it kindly, are as moribund as Lord Sarku's minions. Years between new threads and a few postings here and there is not what I would call a lively debate. There simply is no real exchange of ideas which makes it useless to me. I truly salute your effort to get that venue re-energised, but Tekumel.com is a shadow of what it used to be. Too bad really.
Also, in light of what Chirine, posted I wouldn't want to be on a platform that has banned him for no apparent reason. Foolish exclusionary practices, which seem to stem from personal insecurities, do not appeal to me in the slightest. That is not the type of environment I'm interested in at all.
I agree with Hrugga's assessment regarding this thread, and it completely mirrors my feelings towards it, and quite frankly this is the only reason that I am even active on this forum. Perhaps we could get something similar going on one of the other Tekumel Groups, but I have a bad feeling that the politics would quickly start to manifest and bugger things up. If, as you say, the bullshit could be kept out I would be totally onboard with a more Tekumel dedicated milieu.

Shemek

Agreed. I've been asked to be part of my own forum, and like with the various conventions (Gary Con and Gamehole Con come instatly to mind) that I've been asked to appear at to talk about Tekumel and run games at, the hassle from the TF makes it simply unrealistic. I post here because Bren asked me to, and I can - perhaps - stay because of the past history between Dr. Raymond and RPG Pundit re 'consultantgate'.